God is beyond space

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The analysis to know that God is beyond analysis is also analysis only. Therefore, the direct meaning of the word Aakasha Deepam is that God is unimaginable, since He is beyond spatial dimensions. The extension of this concept is useful to the spiritual aspirant. The entire creation is within the dimensions of Space. Since God is beyond Space, it automatically means that God is beyond creation

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God is beyond Space....

God is beyond Space.....
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So what is with in the space is not GOD.
Is God is someone special who is sitting elsewhere and He is not with in the space.
So what is with in the space & what exactly do you mean by GOD.
GOD is nothing but this whole creation itself.
Accept it or not.
OM

madan_gautam | Sat, 04/04/2009 - 12:40
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The Veda says that God created the world and then He entered the

The Veda says that God created the world and then He entered the world

Since the creation and entry are separate stages, the creation and entry are not simultaneous as in the case of worldly cause and effect; the entry must be into a part of creation only since such requirement is needed.

Since God has become totally unimaginable, the devotees aspiring to see, touch and talk with God for their life time are to be satisfied by the Omnipotent God by entering a medium which is most convenient to them.

God did not enter the entire creation during the process of creation itself, like gold entering the chain during its formation itself. Though God is the cause for the creation, He is unimaginable, unlike the imaginable gold.

Therefore, the logical process of cause and effect as observed in the world cannot be applied to God. This is clear in the Veda. The Veda says that God created the world and then He entered the world. If the entry of God follows the logic of worldly cause and effect, there cannot be two separate stages of creation and entry. You cannot say that gold created the chain and then entered it. During the process of creation of the chain itself, gold enters the chain. But the Veda clearly separates the two states of creation and entry (Tat srushtvaa tadevaanupraavishat…).

This means that God has not entered the entire world like the gold entering the entire jewel in the process of creation itself. If you say that after creation, God has entered the entire world, we have no objection regarding its possibility provided the requirement is needed. The omnipotent God can enter the entire world provided there is such a requirement.

If such entry is done, the devotee cannot be separate from God to talk, see and touch God. Since the requirement opposes such entry, the entry of God into a specific item is only justified.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
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Universal Spirituality for World Peace
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dattaswami2 | Mon, 04/06/2009 - 07:26
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forget..................

Pl. forget all about from Vedas & other old texts,what ever they says.
What is your personal experiences in Spirituality,Let us discuss here.
OM

madan_gautam | Mon, 04/06/2009 - 12:41
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The defect always lies on your side only in implementing .......

The defect always lies on your side only in implementing spiritual knowledge in practice.

It is unnecessary for you to analyze whether the human form is God or a liberated soul. You should be always concerned about the suitability of the preacher (Guru) to your level and thus there is no need of analyzing the Guru. The system of spiritual preachers is one unit headed by God like the group of teachers in a college headed by the principal. You will get the teacher suitable to the level of your class. The principal is also the teacher who can visit any class or may teach a particular class also. The principal is not only responsible for the teaching in his class, but also has a total responsibility over all the teachers to verify whether the teaching is correct or not in the various classes. You need not worry about the responsibility of your class teacher as well as the principal.

The principal is well aware of his responsibility and is powerful to implement his responsibility. He is always doing the overall supervision of the entire school. His meetings with other teachers are not conducted in your presence since it is totally unnecessary for you. You may doubt the overall supervision of the principal in his duty. But you need not have any trace of doubt regarding God who is omnipotent and omniscient. The defect always lies on your side only in implementing spiritual knowledge in practice. A student who is not studying well finds fault with the teacher and reports to the principal.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
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Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

dattaswami2 | Wed, 04/08/2009 - 05:00
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In other words, your teachings are infallible and so the ignorance is with the student. This is why discussion with you cannot be fruitful.

Phroggy | Wed, 04/08/2009 - 06:48
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Hmmmm...

You seem to be interested enough in discussion with him... some sort of fruit must be in the works (?).

http://www.omkaradatta.info

Omkaradatta | Wed, 04/08/2009 - 08:21
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No interest at this point, but we'll see what happens.

Phroggy | Wed, 04/08/2009 - 17:11
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Preaching of Lord in human form

Jesus preached wonderful knowledge. The ordinary fishermen were convinced and followed Him as the Lord. The priests of church were great saints who were unmarried and left every thing for the sake of God. Those priests were certainly higher then ordinary people. The ordinary people followed Jesus because they were convinced in their minds, intelligence and consciousness. They clarified their doubts with Jesus directly and were convinced. This is called as Atma Pramanam. These ordinary people did not look for the voting of the priests to Jesus. In fact, the priests opposed Jesus and crucified Him. In spite, of that the ordinary people followed Jesus since they were convinced. A priest has left every thing for the sake of God. No doubt they are greater people since they have greater urge. The greater urge itself cannot qualify any person. A student may have a greater urge for the answer but he might have not understood the answer given by the teacher. Another student might have not so much urge but has understood the answer. Between these two students who is greater?

Janaka was a king and did not leave the kingdom. Suka was a saint and left every thing with extreme urge for God. Janaka was appointed as examiner of Suka by sage Vyasa. Who is greater between these two? Though Janaka was a house holder and did not leave anything, he is the student with answer. Suka is a saint who left every thing and got answer from Janaka only. Quest is appreciable but cannot be the qualification. Capacity to understand the answer lies with the internal mental development (Samskara). The external orange robe, the quest for God, leaving every thing and roaming every where, attaining a post of Pithadhipati, studying scriptures by tradition etc., are certainly appreciable but are not the qualifications of greatness. A student may be in the uniform dress. He may have lot of urge to get the knowledge. He might have left his house and roamed from school to school. He might have become a teacher of a school. He might have studied the course according to discipline. He might have memorized and got through the examination and He might have thus got the degree and became the teacher. But still his doubts in the subject were not answered. Einstein and Ramanujam did not get a pass and could not get the degree. But they have perfectly understood the subject. Therefore, attainment lies in their internal samskaras and attaining the real preacher.

Both the samskaras and Guru (Preacher) are important for the attainment and not the other points. Both the pearl shell and the rain drop are essential for the formation of a pearl. Except these two, all the other factors are ephemeral only. You should judge anything by your self and in association with others through discussions and debates. In coming to the conclusion you can take the help of the discussions with others. But you should use your own intelligence and consciousness in final conclusion. In this way the participation of others is helpful. But to see whether some body lifted his hand or not for voting is a point is foolishness. You can discuss with him about the point. You should lift your hand based on your final conclusion. Even a cleaver person may go wrong in that particular point. Your vote should not depend on his vote.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

dattaswami2 | Wed, 04/08/2009 - 11:00