An urban legend

abra's picture

First, there is the issue of Babji and the issue of Kriya Yoga - which are two different ones. My criticism is about the legendary image of Babji and the ones who follow it.

I'm not that impressed by one who insists on staying in his body, staying young and doing sidhis.

But I'm more not impressed by those who choose to follow some vague image with no factual evidences whatsoever about his validity fascinated by his ability to postpone death and stay young and do paranormal activities. Didn't we have enough of those? Jesus, Moses, and so on...


> An urban legend

This was the Guru Mahavatar of olden times, APPROXIMATELY 2500 years old, who appeared before Yogananda Paramahansa as having been stated in the book--'AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI'. Jesus the Christ might also have such quality of aging but under the mission being assigned to Him by The Almighty, after fulfilling the mission Jesus went from this earth to His Father the Almighty.
There are more such divine personalities who are stated more older even than Maha Avtatar Babaji. These are Parshuram, Hanuman, Ashwat-thaamaa, Karipaachaaryaa etc. Parshuram and Hanuman belong to Tretayuga when the God Sri Ram was available on this planet. Other two also pertained to the period of dwaapar yuga who were the fighters during the great war of Mahaabhaarat, at the times of Lord Krishna.
There is need to reveal such turth through science but it is doubted whether the Modern Science has developed so much higher stature that such truth can be testify.

NIDHI PARKASH | Mon, 11/02/2009 - 14:35
Asanga's picture

you miss the point totally...

By saying all you said, you displayed exactly what was being talked of as ignorance in the post... Why do you have to comment on each and everything posted in this site as if you are an expert on the subject, and display your ignorance...?
What the poster said was that many 'ignorant' people get so excited and intrigued by someone (like Babaji) being a 'chiranjeevi'(Immortal/ Very long lived in a physical) that they lose sight of their own goals of realising their self... The foolish quest of immortality (Mentioned in Hindu Myths and Scriptures ad nauseum- Read the story of Yayati, Dambhodbhava, Hayagreeva et al... every Asura worth his salt asks for the boon of immortality or a very very long life!!!)
Ask yourself, whether knowing of Mahavtar Babaji's remaining youthful for thousands of years can really make you realise your self and/or whether Yogananda's Kriya Yoga practice has made anyone self realised...
Most people get dazzled by listening of Jesus's miracles like turning water to wine, walking on water, or rising from the dead... They do not even begin to recognise the true import of his teachings, his understanding and his wisdom...

I am, yet I am not...

Asanga | Mon, 11/02/2009 - 18:23

> reg. you miss the point totally

Your missing point is not found graspable in view of your contradictory phrases 'I AM, YET I AM NOT'. No problem to anyone must be if someone believes either ancestral mysticism or scientific temperament as being referred myself in last para of my previous day comment on our revered Maha Avatar Babaji or there may be many other devotees who trust the both just like you believe your faithful phrase 'I AM, YET I AM NOT'. Not talking of one but there are thousands and thousands devotees who had been certainly helped by the Babaji for the matters of divine unfolding as well as on the path of self-realization, which might have not become part of media because most of such matters had been beyond media; known only to some particular persons the blessed devotees. Without the blessings of the Almighty no one may be capable to get 'DARSHANA and GUIDANCE' from such kinds of divine apostles. If you are not of the temperament to believe such Babaji; certainly, I have to say nothing to you except you at least must believe in modern science in respect to which I have already quoted in last para for scientific testifying.

NIDHI PARKASH | Tue, 11/03/2009 - 14:33
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Communication in Queen's English

It would be a good idea to stay with the topic here. Do read my earlier answer once again. I have in no way condemned Babaji or Jesus. Look at the last line there. I have said that people tend to look at the miracles and illusions rather than the wise teachings of masters.
How about looking at the fact that you became upset and reacted? It will be good for you to take some time before you react- and recognise that you have a limitation in communicating in Queen's English.
Be well...

I am, yet I am not...

Asanga | Wed, 11/04/2009 - 07:05
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I agree, good point! The

I agree, good point!

The immediate reaction is automatic based on our conditioning machine. Taking some time while being aware of the urge to react is actually introducing presence and breaking the automatic machine.

It is also ok to condemn Babaji and Jesus. Nothing can be sacred if it is dependent on the goodwill of people. What kind of sacredness it is?

doo | Wed, 11/04/2009 - 08:44


On the matter of to react I disagree to you.

NIDHI PARKASH | Wed, 11/04/2009 - 15:56

> communication in queen's english

For the understanding of the wise teachings of masters someone must have to be the element of wisdom while in general masses in totality cannot be fully capable to understand the masters; so it is natural that masses are attracted towards miracles and illusions are also miracles to them. For the understanding the wise teachings of the masters masses have to get the wisdom but what is source of getting such wisdom when the masses unlike the dry philosophical explanations of wisdom as per the tastes of their mentality.
Enough time already taken to go through your contradictory statements alongwith the same kind of your dictum 'I AM, YET I AM NOT'; hence my reaction was o.key to fit for recognition in view of which you were asked for at least for scientific outlook.
Communication in Queen's English may be limited but what about limitations of the languages if communications should be performed in 'FATHER'S ENGLISH'.

NIDHI PARKASH | Wed, 11/04/2009 - 15:49
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You need not to know Queen's

You need not to know Queen's English to communicate your inner thoughts.
Surprisingly it sounds very bad.Better use softer language, at least here.

bonya basu | Thu, 07/01/2010 - 09:36

> You need not to know queen's

Mother Sarada has been the queen and her English was understood by the rare ones as by revered Sharadananda, Vivekananda, Yogananda and Turiyanada etc. but her English (vibration of spiritual flow from her holy feet) is still "BLESSING ALL OF US WITH HER DIVINE LOVE".

Language is very, very soft; inspite of its softness it becomes sometimes from the point of view to give fit answer to a question 'AS TIT FOR TAT', hence it is nothing for except being response to as as questions so so replies.

NIDHI PARKASH | Wed, 07/07/2010 - 16:51
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Skepticism versus religiousness

Babaji may be a real entity and may be a legend. Those who claim categorically that he is a legend are skeptics who cannot believe that there is anything paranormal. Those who claim categorically that he is real are religious.

There are reports that he was seen by some people including the grandson of Lahiri Maasaya who lives and teaches in Varanasi (forgot his name) but all this is of less importance - what I think is more important is that thanks to his image and deeds, more people are drawn to spirituality and to Kriya Yoga which is an excellent approach.

solomon | Mon, 11/02/2009 - 18:54
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An Urban Legend

@ original post :
My dear friend,
Accept that vague image that will turn to real image.At one time I use to argue like that but today I have a full faith.
But you have to cover a long accept.
Let BABAJI appears before you........

bonya basu | Thu, 07/01/2010 - 09:26
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Re: An urban legend

You are right. Who wants to live in the body for so many years when Guru has renounced the body?
These devotees and disciples claiming the followers of Mahavatar Babaji cannot bring him before the world to end all speculations and logic against truth and God. Hope their experiences are not hallucinations or dreams.

Nathyogi | Mon, 11/10/2014 - 10:33