state of thoughtlessness

krishnad's picture

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namaskaar to all !

i feel frankly that i m not the blessed one..

have been keen on knowing the self, in a bid to progress from self to supreme...

can anyone share his experience of his journey of meditation,

specially.. how to handle the chaos of thoughts in mind..?

....guiding light needed !!!

Mr jack's picture

Guiding light, shiva,

Guiding light, shiva, vallalyaar, the real you. True you.
Chaos of mind, in the moment in the now no mind real you. Awareness.
Prayer helps, sincere with love.
Guiding light you, you know love.

with love

Mr jack | Sun, 04/14/2013 - 23:10
joy's picture

There is only one way to

There is only one way to handle the chaos of thoughts in the mind without strengthening this chaos and that way is... to watch them without judgment, without trying to stop them or navigate them, just watch them as if they are of someone else. At some point they will subside.

joy | Tue, 04/16/2013 - 08:51
krishnad's picture


i hv read about this,

to be the witness on to self.. may be that is the way out..

but what i could not understand is How to do it..?

how to watch the selfness, the self thoughts, and be the witness on to self...???

krishnad | Thu, 04/18/2013 - 17:58
lalo's picture

Not witness of ourselves

Not witness of ourselves (that is too generic and abstract) but simply witness of our thoughts which are tangible and eaily perceived. You can watch your thoughts, right? Then do it intentionally, it is easy as it sounds and the effect is giant, just make sure to watch them earnestly and without judgement, just watch them and accept whatever comes there in the thinking process.

lalo | Fri, 04/19/2013 - 07:15
krishnad's picture

Not Witness...

Namaskaar Dear sir..

thank you so much for sharing the views...

i further have a little doubt that when we are looking at our own thoughts, as a mere spectator...( though its difficult, but...) despite best of efforts, body and mind both show a reaction to it as per its content, say for some annoying thought will elicit a reaction in form of inner anxiety, rapid and shallow respiration...etc

its under normal laws of nature, the normal physiology of body...

and as long as we are reacting as per law of nature, it isnt different from actually being involved in that thought or even that particular action...

there has to be something more to it...

plz do share...

thank you..

krishnad | Fri, 04/19/2013 - 15:48
erez2's picture

Reactions of something to

Reactions of something to your thoughts is not the same as being absorbed or involved in the thought. Reaction is not important, let the body and mind react to a thought if they are programmed to do so. You need just to focus on the awareness of the thoughts without having any desire as to the followup, reactions, consequences and so on.

And another thing - beware of the mind's habit to analyze the process instead of undergoing it. This is the mind's trick aimed at not following the practice discussed here. Whether the reaction to the thought is the same as being absorbed in the thought or not is not important now, you will realize this ONLY after doing the practice. It's like speculating what the taste of a piece of cake would be y analyzing the recipe instead of simply tasting the cake.

erez2 | Sun, 04/21/2013 - 09:39
Papun's picture

Witnessing the Mind

Greetings to All. Peace.

It is almost impossible to silence the chaotic thoughts of your mind by force. That would be like struggling to tame a bull by holding his horns.

I try what Nisargadatta Maharaj said in his book I AM THAT.It sounds simple but is actually quite difficult.If you give it a little thought you will come to notice that while numerous thoughts arise and subside in succession there is a part of you which is simultaneously aware of them. This awareness is the I AM sense. By focusing on this awareness you can actually observe your thoughts and you won't be affected by your mind's tricks anymore.

While it is easy to hold on to this pure awareness in meditation , it is difficult to cling on to it when carrying out our daily work. One has to practice a lot to be focused on this awareness. At present there are times when I can hold on to this I AM sense but many times the control shifts back to the mind creating problems. I guess the only thing to do is to keep trying.

Papun | Thu, 11/14/2013 - 08:32