Sound and Light Tradition

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In a previous blog I asked who here can speak of the inner sound. Reading "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi" has provided a greater context and understanding of this subject so I feel it useful to add to that blog post with Bhagavan's comments and create an open discussion concerning this topic as suggested by another member.

From "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi"

>>"Maharshi: Meditation on nada is one of the several approved methods. The adherents claim a very special virtue for the method. According to them it is the easiest and the most direct method. Just as a child is lulled to sleep by lullabies, so nada soothes one to the state of samadhi; again just as a king sends his state musicians to welcome his son on his return from a long journey, so also nada takes the devotee into the Lord’s Abode in a pleasing manner. Nada helps concentration. After it is felt the practice should not be made an end in itself. Nada is not the objective; the subject should firmly be held; otherwise a blank will result. Though the subject is there even in the blank he would not be aware of the cessation of nada of different kinds. In order to be aware even in that blank one must remember his own self. Nada upasana (meditation on sound) is good; it is better if associated with investigation (vichara). In that case the nada is made up of chinmaya and also tanmaya (of Knowledge and of Self). Nada helps concentration."<<

The path of Sound and Light is an indirect path. Self enquiry is the direct path.

>> Talk 303.
Mr. K. R. V. Iyer sought more light on nada (sound).

M.: He who meditates on it feels it. There are ten *kinds of nadas. After the final thundering nada the man gets laya. That is his natural and eternal state. Nada, jyoti, or enquiry thus take one to the same point. (The former are indirect and the last is direct).

D.: The mind becomes peaceful for a short while and again emerges forth. What is to be done?

M.: The peace often gained must be remembered at other times. That peace is your natural and permanent state. By continuous practice it will become natural. That is called the ‘current.’ That is your true nature. Nada, photisms, etc., imply the existence of triputi (the triads of cogniser, cognition and the cognised). The current resulting from investigation for the Self is suddha triputi or pure triad - that is to say, undifferentiated triad.
26th December, 1936<<
*Ten kinds of nadas was stated, not ten nadas.

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O.P. Continued

"Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi"

Talk 215

>>In the course of conversation, Maharshi said that the subtle body is composed of light and sound and the gross body is a concrete form of the same.

The Lecturer in Physics asked if the same light and sound were cognisable by senses.

M.: No. They are super-sensual. It is like this:


Gross - Universe
Subtle- Sound and Light
Primal- Atma (Self)
------- Param (Transcendental)

Jiva (Individual)

Gross - Body
Subtle- Mind and Prana
Primal- Atma (Self)
------- Param (Transcendental)

They are ultimately the same.
The subtle body of the Creator is the mystic sound Pranava, which is sound and light. The universe resolves into sound and light and then into transcendence - Param.<<

Though Maharshi spoke of these things in response to individual questioners, to infer these things were suggested by him for all would be incorrect.

"So many efforts and so much discipline are said
to be necessary for eradicating the non-existing avidya!" --Maharshi

B-friend | Thu, 10/15/2009 - 14:49
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Your matter was very educative and ellaborative, thank you so much. Am preceiving Light and Sound simultaneously throughout, at all times.



snrajan | Mon, 05/10/2010 - 09:35
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Sound and music in any religious and spiritual tradition

Yes, this is the reason why music is the art that is so popular in ANY religious and spiritual tradition: Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Vipassana... Have you encountered one tradition which has no extensive collection of tunes, prayers with melodies, songs?

tiru | Thu, 10/15/2009 - 14:58
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Does feeling play into this?

I get the light and sound thing (I might be wrong on the sound, because it goes from ringing to loud tones? Maybe my ears are going bad!).

I also get energetic sensations throughout the lite electrical charge is going throughout...this is continual.

Does anyone else relate to that?

Gilana | Fri, 05/21/2010 - 04:40