Paradox of Thought

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Life is full of seeming paradoxes. Thought is a great asset that has helped man progress so far & yet it is also the cause of human sorrow.

Seeing how thought can operate efficiently and sanely without intruding into the psychological realm may be the way out of human misery.

alon's picture

Where is the paradox?

Where is the paradox? Overuse and misuse of anything (not just of the mind) causes suffering.

The solution is not having the thoughts intrude the the psychological realm, you cannot differentiate between psychology and the thinking process, but simply having the thinking process controlled by you and not having the thinking process control you. The same principle as in the case of driving a car.

alon | Mon, 07/29/2013 - 07:23
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Controler & Controller

Is the controller different from thought. One has set beliefs and thought patterns which in turn try to "fit in life" or mould it to ones own advantage.

Forms of control including sexual & other abstinence does not bring any clarity or understanding.

Observation requires freedom and the Controller is always engaged in practicing control. Even those who unaware live a so called 'normal life' of the world try to get what is pleasing and avoid what is not.

'Seeming' paradox has to be observed in relationships which is the psychological realm as against scientific exploration or technological work.

joejo | Mon, 07/29/2013 - 10:18
alon's picture

The way to control the mind

The way to control the mind as well as sexual urges (if one wishes to control them, I wouldn't suggest so) or any other thing is not by fighting them but by observing them consciously in real time and in that way they lose their power (which is available only in the subconscious domain).

alon | Mon, 07/29/2013 - 16:45
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Observation with a motive

Observation with any motive is part of the very process through which the Controller is born. One cannot discover anything new if one was to tread the path propelled by the past.

All Yoga in the western sense is only a management of pain, a mere temporary relief. The way Subconscious is portrayed is much the legacy of Freud who is not accepted by the very fraternity of which he could be said to be the founder.

Only when it is 'Seen' that the problem of Sorrow has no solution in domain of the activity of thought that it stops to intrude into places where it is not meant to be.

joejo | Tue, 07/30/2013 - 00:41
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No, there can be a motive,

No, there can be a motive, the important point is that the motive will not leak into the observation, which means: observation with full acceptance of whatever observed. Then it doesn't matter if the pain remains or not - the pain does not translate to suffering, it can still be there but it has no effect. Try it and you will see that.

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alon | Tue, 07/30/2013 - 06:47