Isha's picture

Average: 4 (4 votes)

Does anyone know if fasting increases meditation and concentration and if enlightenment is more quickly achieved? If you know the nature of your goal i.e. what enlightenment is to you, how can you effect the mind with practise to achieve it rather than just let it happen on it's own? You can know in your 'prana' the end result and just knowing is perhaps effecting the impression on the mind. Anything else?

silencio's picture

Leave these mind things aside

Fasting per se does not assist or spoils much in the meditation or concentration, it can however be a content for your mind to play with. Trying to control how quickly enlightenment comes or even to "achieve" it and "goals" is ignorant. Enlightenment is something else and others might give you the regular question: who is it that wants to get enlightened?

silencio | Tue, 06/07/2011 - 16:15
Quantum's picture


Focus on your breathing.

Quantum | Mon, 06/20/2011 - 20:27
Quantum's picture


Details. Hang on. Here we go...

The question "Who is it that wants to be enlightened" is helpful. And it is also irritating to the beginner because it is so damn unhelpful to the beginner. At some level it makes sense. But you do not teach nuclear physics to the average preschool toddler who has not even learned to count to 100 yet.

Fasten your seatbelt and listen:
Thoughts happen in your head. (Ajna chakra) (Never mind for now that all consciousness is non-local. We're still learning to count at this stage. So let's not get ahead of ourselves.)

Your attention can be directed anywhere, by an act of will.

I am fairly certain you missed that. So, I will summarize those two points:

1) Thoughts happen in the head (Ajna chakra)
2) Attention can be directed anywhere.

More details:

1) Thoughts
Thoughts swing up and down, left and right, good and bad, positive, negative. Happy, sad. Bi-polar. Thoughts always happen. It's one hell of a roller coaster. If they stop, more power to you.

2) Attention
When you attention is entirely caught up in thoughts, it may be what is called "Identification with thoughts/mind/form". EGO. You think you are your thoughts. This is where you get on the roller coaster ride. Also called "missing the mark." "Sin." "Ego."

Do what you can to extradite, pry, disentangle, detach, unclutch, your attention away from thoughts, the monkey chatter. Directing attention on the breathing is a good and easy way to dislodge attention away from the monkey chatter.

Even when attention is directed on something else, say the breathing, or the innerbody, the monkey chatter may (or may not) continue. But at this point, you do not care, and it does not matter, because you are no longer sitting on that damn roller coaster. If you want to stare at it, you can, if you have your feet firmly on the ground. Otherwise, looking at it, it will grab your attention again, and before you know it, you are back on the roller coaster. It takes lots of practice and lots of effort.

Think of it as trying to bench press 200 pounds, when starting at 90 lbs.

Set you timer to beep every say, 5 minutes to remind you to pull attention away from the monkey chatter and to focus on the breathing. Or bring attention into the innerbody.

Bring attention anywhere. Just get it away from the monkey chatter.

Quantum | Mon, 06/20/2011 - 20:43
jasdir singh jaura's picture


Personal understandings ...

Enlightenment is more quickly achieved when cocentration in meditation increases fasting or lower the diet.

But fasting can work like --- Suppose the engine of car which is not use from a very long time gets cool down --- and strats working when somebody pushes the car from outside.


jasdir singh jaura | Tue, 06/21/2011 - 09:35