If we catch a fraud Guru by error, what will be our fate?

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If we catch a fraud Guru by error, what will be our fate?

Veda means knowledge. When the knowledge is given to you to identify the real human form of the Lord and if you fail in identifying the real human incarnation and catch a fraud Guru you are lost.

In the Chemistry laboratory when there is error in doing the analysis according to the given procedure and if you identify it as a wrong salt you are failing in the examination. But there is another chance to attend the examination for the failed candidates.

Similarly you must revise the procedure and you can pass in the examination. But you must identify the Satguru before your life ends. Otherwise, you cannot be sure of the human birth again (Jantunaam Nara Janma Durlabhamidam – Sankara).

Disciple_de_Baljit's picture

Not to worry

You bring here a good point that many seekers don't even realize because they think that every path is valid or that they only know what is right or for other reasons.

"Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?" That is the Bible's way to tell us not to worry, He will take care of us.

What I mean to say by this is that it is not for us to find Him but He will find us. Of course we have to be opened and make ourself ready and ask. Jesus said :"Seek and you shall find, ask and you shall receive". When the seeker is ready, the Master manifest himself.

As you can see I was raised with the Bible and though I followed this admonition it was hard to accept the answer, to be ready to accept that Jesus was not for today that I had to find the living one.

Disciple_de_Baljit | Tue, 01/27/2009 - 08:12
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The generation and propagation of the divine knowledge is not a

The generation and propagation of the divine knowledge is not a waste. Certainly, all will not change. A few will partially change. One or two in this minority will change completely (Manushyanam…Gita). Majority remains as it is. They are always concentrating on the worldly bonds only. Their goal is money, family, comforts, fame etc., only. At the maximum they may attend some work shops to get relief from the stress because they are tired with the stress by the problems to attain their goals. For them work is worship. Their ultimate and utmost spiritual effort is only the participation in a work shop on stress relief so that they can be reactivated for fresh efforts to achieve the worldly goals by improving their professional skills. It is just a commercial advertisement!

The spiritual preachers also changed according to the public because the tendency of today is that the ruler should go according to the needs of public in democracy. A king may do like that who is a politician aspiring for position, power and wealth. But a spiritual preacher should not come down to such level. He should guide the people to the right path without any compromise of the truth. The people should follow the knowledge. But today the knowledge is following people. The people need only fresh strength in the worldly work.

The spiritual preacher limited himself to that particular lowest level only which is needed for the public. All the other higher levels are just mentioned as a formality. Here the spiritual preacher should impress on the life after death. He should preach about the unimaginable stress which is to be faced by the people after death in the hell. Islam and Christianity speak about the permanent hell. There is only one enquiry at the end of this only one human life. After that enquiry, either permanent place in the abode of God or permanent hell will be the result of the divine judgment. Such concept is absolutely correct and is also universal. The law of God is one and the same in any religion.

God uses His special power in the case of exceptionally deserving devotees to grant the human rebirth and this cannot be generalized. In Hinduism this exceptional facility is extended to every human being and this caused a careless lenient view about the spiritual effort to concentrate on God. The president of the country can cancel the death punishment in the case of a deserving candidate using his special power. If this is generalized and if every human being is granted this facility, there is no fear for any one to do a murder! Due to this reason only, we can find most of the Christians and Muslims in Churches and mosques to worship God and they are not found in the stress relief- work shops. We can find mainly Hindus in these work shops. Hindus feel that a number of chances of human birth will be available in future and going to hell is only a temporary visit.

One must note an important point here. By concentrating on God through devotion, you will get the stress relief also which is included in the devotion. Then why to spend time for mere stress relief from this temporary worldly problems? In the school all the subjects are taught. If you go to a single teacher, you can learn one subject only. Which is better? School or tuition teacher? By the divine knowledge and devotion, you are getting stress relief in this world as well as in the upper world. In the work shop you can get stress relief from the problems in this world only. I am not criticizing these work shops because I am not in the competition with those preachers for fame or wealth. I am also not jealous with those preachers for their fame. I am only pained by the fate of the followers and those preachers also in the future. Veda says that blind lead blind and fall in the well (Andhenaiva……..). Some preachers say that they know the truth, but they are doing like this for initial attraction. But the initial attraction is always continuing through out the human life. What is the difference between such work shops and cinema theaters, since both give stress relief? What is the difference between these work shops and hospitals since both give relief from illness?

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

dattaswami2 | Sat, 01/31/2009 - 15:07
Mastercvvyoga's picture

seperate religion

I think spirituality is beyond religion. Religion has its limits. In spiritualty there are no limits. It is infinitive.

Your point of subject is good, as true preacher wont come to the public. People have to go to him.

Mastercvvyoga | Fri, 07/31/2009 - 06:44
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Sankara only told that jantu

Sankara only told that jantu nam narajanma

durlabham not uttamam.Are we living a life better than a cow?.The cow will not touch any thing after her stomach is full.Are we of that standard?.We add some more to our filled stomach for the sake of frieds and formalities.But an animal has no formalities.So if we want to live like humans, we have to first obeserve the animal behaviour.The animals living in the forest wont kill fellow animals just to fulfil their egos.
The quest for a guru starts after a change in our mental setup.I dont believe in sathguru or sad guru theory.Every guru is a guru.If we read the life histories of sadhus and saints we find them having more than one guru in their spiritual search.I dislike this kind of canvas by gurus clan.Why dont you think of the cleanness of test tube and originality of chemicals before conducting your so called analysis?

mbnarayana | Fri, 08/07/2009 - 15:30