How to explain the cruelty of existence

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The 2 year-old son of friends of mine has died unexpectedly a month ago. He was an angle.

They are devistated.

It really damaged my belief and trust.

It is too cruel and I can't buy the religious/spiritual bla bla about karma and tests in life that are usually brought up in such cases in order to settle them with the dogmas of belief and god.

What kind of god is this?



Fallen Yogi's picture

Oops, sorry, I meant to post

Oops, sorry, I meant to post my comment here but sent you a private message instead . . . I've got the hang of it now.

Fallen Yogi | Wed, 04/09/2008 - 01:23
SoulCanHeal's picture

The Pain of Existence

How incredibly painful for your friends and their loved ones.

You have knowledge of karma. For me, it is the only explanation for such events. When souls return to physical life, they have a predetermined length of time they will be here. They agree to this. For some--those who either have much karmic debt (what some would refer to as lessons) to repay or for those who can offer great service to humanity--they may live for a very long time.

For others, such as with this 2 year old, he may have been a very evolved soul who did not need to return to Mother Earth for very long.

The Divine gives us hundreds or thousands of lifetimes of opportunities to repay our debts so that we may advance on our soul journey. This is Divine generosity. As our soul advances, it moves closer to the Divine.

When I look at life's events through the perspective of the soul and its journey home, I gain clarity into many of my most painful times.

Wishing you and your friends healing.

SoulCanHeal | Thu, 05/29/2008 - 20:40
enlight's picture

This is beautiful, thanks

Your reply gives a clear and sincere explanation to the cruelties that we cannot understand with the limited mind. Thanks!

From the perspective of the temporal earthy mind, it is an outrageous cruelty.

From the wider spiritual perspective, it apears in a different light.

This difference in the perspectives is exactly the place where we should do our spiritual work.

enlight | Thu, 05/29/2008 - 21:28
Elijah_NatureBoy's picture

Explantion of "IT IS" of Existence!

Karma and reincarnation is the only explanation for the events of life I can find, they are not cruel nor pleasant, they are the events of life.

I HAVE SINNED
by Elijah A. "NatureBoy" Alexander, Jr.

Am I a sinner saved by grace
Who continue to sin in salvation's face
Or, have I sinned and was short of god's glory
But now is freed to tell the redemption story?

To say all are sinners and not that they were
Is ungodly counsel, prohibiting sinner and a scorner.
Such are not continually meditating in god's law
But prevent other's entrance because of their own flaw.

If we baptize in the father, son and holy ghost
What is is what it is will be our boast.
Father's name is I AM THAT I AM, son's and holy ghost's too
So what one do they do but reap what you sow is true.

To kill another, animal or man, the killers must reap the same fate.
The animal kills may be the reap but man's is likely a future date.
The prey dies and later incarnate in the predator's role,
But the number of your man kills you must reap as a man's soul.

Yes, I did sin and fall short of god's glory
But now I'm free and tells the redemption story
That by logical reasoning one's sins becomes as snow
And the eternal purpose for everything we'll come to know.

In the Bible's Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting." is the uggestion "reaping and sowing [Karma]" through "reincarnation" is what is behind every action of all life [although man is written] on this plane. It also suggests that we must first balance the physical Karma of the flesh before we are able to sow to the spirit to enter everlasting life.

The way it works is a life-force mind combination, or ghost, enter the earth as the first form of life. It has to eat [sow] and will be eaten [to later reap] multitudes of times as it continues in that life type for a predetermined duration. It then incarnates into one of the life types which consumed it and is consumed by other life types type and in this way the ghost continues its migration until it reaches man.

Man also has the need to eat so it began to eat the life types other man had eaten [reaping] of them when the ghost was those life types. Meanwhile, as man we do things to other man during our many incarnations as man. In some cases we are sowing and others we are reaping.

During our duration of incarnating as man we live every attribute known to man prior to qualifying to enter everlasting life. We have been both genders, robbers and robbed, molesters and molested, killers and killed, and the list goes on through all attributes known man demonstrate.

During the incarnating process the mind forgets why it chose the life it did [but always because of the need to sow or reap] so our flesh can recognize just how the recipient of our sowing felt, or so we will be able to know how it felt to sow it. What makes Karma appear corrupt is our judging the acts. If we approve of them we call them blessings, if we disapprove of them we call them violent but, THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE, they're sowing and reaping to give purpose to existence.

That may not help since you may not accept the concept of Karma and reincarnation. If you are able to receive this for further meditation on it I am sure you will find it to be a relief. Only if you are going into everlasting life will you now began to "sow to the Spirit", i.e., are able to receive this and do the minimum one can to any other life. If this is not the time for you to enter everlasting life [integrate the mind and life-force into the body] you will not be able to receive it because you still have many more sowings and reapings of the flesh to endure here in THIS LAKE OF HELL'S FIRE.

In that light, the child discarnated to cause the parents to reap or sow something in the process of living on this plane of existence.

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Elijah "NatureBoy"--If I have caused you to question your beliefs I have accomplished my mission. Now, reason the differences in our concepts and reason that until you have reasoned all pros and co

Elijah_NatureBoy | Sat, 07/19/2008 - 01:16
ramadvaith's picture

Death is painful or is it?

Death for most is painful and fearsome. As long as death is seen as the end of a journey as occidental religions do, it is painful and fearsome. However, if it can be seen as another rite of passage, of the passage of energy from one matter to another, it loses the pain and fear that it may otherwise impose.

God, Existence, Nature, Universal Energy, by whatever name we wish to call that unknown force, is neither cruel nor vindictive. It is compassionate. But it operates on a logic that we do not always follow.

If you drive your car over an anthill and kill a million ants, would you even notice? are you cruel? do you have a personal vendetta against the ants?

when a tsunami kills thousands or an earthquake does, we ask, isn't God cruel?

Birth itself is not our right. It is an incident undecided by our physical self. How is death our right to decide? Whether one dies at two or ninety nine does it make a difference? will the person ever be ready to die?

The person who died does not suffer. In almost all cases the energy body is a better state, despite what religion may say. It is only those left behind who seem to suffer. what an irony? Why?

Compassion is not sympathy. Sympathy tries to console and pretend to share. Compassion is empathy. Empathy aims to make one understand and accept.

When you are born, you are ready to die. It is that simple.

When you die, it is not that YOU die, but your physical body mind. you live on as energy. It is again that simple.

be in bliss

ramadvaith | Sat, 08/02/2008 - 16:00