God is not fond of fame

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God is not fond of fame

I have come down to preach and reach each one of you here. I am impartial from My side. Your attachments depend on your own merits and defects. I am controlling My fame as long as I am alive, which will rise like a Tsunami after My exit. There is a reason for this. To accept the human incarnation itself creates the seed of egoism and jealousy. If the human form of God becomes famous while alive, the seed of egoism and jealousy will grow like a huge tree even in the heart of the closest devotee. Priests accepted the past human prophets. But to accept Jesus as Prophet in live form, jealousy entered as seed.

Jesus was drawing crowds by His divine knowledge and the growing fame of Jesus developed the jealousy more and more, which lead to His crucification. Even His closest devotee betrayed Him due to jealousy and egoism. God is not fond of fame because He is bored with the fame in the upper world. Only human beings are fond of fame. God enjoys defame, which is not available in the upper world. Crucification was defame and the Lord enjoyed it well here.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org



Phroggy's picture

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"I have come down to preach and reach each one of you here."

Oh, Lordy, not another one! I'm sorry, but I feel like I'm drowning in the ignorance here. I can't breath with all these pseudo enlightened masters all around me ready to preach their silliness to me. The world has gone mad.

Phroggy | Tue, 11/25/2008 - 07:09
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Take a deep breath...

Take a deep breath, Phroggy, turn off the computer for awhile, go look at nature ;-). Yer overreacting, IMO.

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Omkaradatta | Tue, 11/25/2008 - 12:54
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hey phroggy, don't be so negative

hey phroggy, don't be so negative. Some can say these same words about you or about me also, no? :-)

He is a new contributor here, why welcome him in such a competitive hostile way? besides, i read some of his other posts and they are very good.

And about the "another one..." - I'm sure you agree with me that most of the material here is surprisingly very enlightening and many writers happen to be very very advanced. If you didn't think so you wouldn't be active and spend time here so much for such a long time, after all none of us is here just for playing the teacher but as students.

sonti | Tue, 11/25/2008 - 14:59
Phroggy's picture

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But he's not a new poster here, he's God come down from heaven to save us. He told us so. I've read several of his posts and it's a combination of Christianity and New Age nonsense. What level of delusion would cause you to say this is not an environment conducive to a search for Truth?

I say it deserves to be said out loud if we really have any interest in what's true.

And Tim, I'm hoping you take that pill and just relax a bit. Everything is fine.

Phroggy | Wed, 11/26/2008 - 00:45
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OK

Thanks, Phroggy... if ya got some good pills around, send 'em in (chuckling... just kidding).

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 11/26/2008 - 05:32
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I spose I'm getting even more blunt the older I get (if that's possible) Prety soon nobody will be able to tolerate me. Hehe.

Phroggy | Wed, 11/26/2008 - 06:31
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Not even you?

Can you tolerate you?

P.S. don't assume that just because most folks seem to be projecting their own issues onto you, all are. We really cannot know the true motivations of others, particularly in a text medium like this. And that goes for my view of you, too, of course.

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 11/26/2008 - 06:35
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I seem to be entertained by this silly Phil person. I guess it's an acquired taste. Hehe.

Phroggy | Wed, 11/26/2008 - 06:36
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How do you know upfront

How do you know upfront that he is not what he says he is???

Is it because his writings do not seem to you as ones of a god man (a subjective opinion which is certainly acceptable) or is it a deep rooted skepticism that doesn't believe in advance in any god people, avatars, ghosts, supernatural. If the latter is true then it is just philosophy and intellectual games disguised as spiritualism which I hope is not the case.

dora | Tue, 11/25/2008 - 15:59
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No, it's a level of clarity that knows ignorance when it sees it.

Phroggy | Wed, 11/26/2008 - 00:47
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My stand

When I said that God is in my human body, who is delivering the spiritual knowledge, my reference is my devotees who strongly believe me in spite of my several objections. My statements vary according to the level of the devotees. Some times I say that I am devotee or a messenger to ordinary people. I say that God is in me to the devotees who have partial faith in me. I say that the God pervaded all over my body and became one with me to strong devotees who have reached the climax of the faith. Jesus also told like this to different levels of devotees. He claimed himself as messenger of God to lower devotees. To the middle level He claimed that He is son of the God. To the top devotees He claimed that He and His father are one and the same. You should not transfer one statement from one level to the other level. In my case, for your information, I say every one that I am just a devotee of God.

But the devotees forced me with their opinions and finally I responded according to their firmness of faith. Even there I tried my level best to distort their faith through several tests. Therefore, you cannot generalise my statements to all the humanity. In fact you cannot generalise the statements of Jesus also to the entire humanity because all the human beings have not believed Jesus. Only some believed and His statements relate to such fraction of devotees only.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

dattaswami2 | Thu, 11/27/2008 - 15:57
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Hmmm? :-)

I am new here and I find this very amusing. What is God for you Anil Antony??? Is it a person? It sound so. Warning bell!!!!

"God is not fond of fame because He is bored with the fame in the upper world. Only human beings are fond of fame. God enjoys defame, which is not available in the upper world. Crucification was defame and the Lord enjoyed it well here."

Anyone who claim they know what God like, dislike, enjoy should run far away from the claimer!!!

How on earth can you know anything what God enjoy??? Is it just in your mind? Read a bit from enlightened masters and maybe you will drop that idea one day? But probably not.I looks like it is very difficult for many people to get out of self created mind-bubbles. To be flexible and change belif systems are not easy for many people. Will you defend your belife? Best wishes!

rebelsoul | Tue, 09/01/2009 - 10:34
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Thanks for your warning! Why

Thanks for your warning!

Why do not all see God?

Nobody sees God. God is not touched even by imagination. How can we see God? God enters some medium and becomes visible through that medium (through Lord in human form or Son of God). Through that medium also you are experiencing only the existence God. Only experience of existence is possible. There is no way to see God directly. The current cannot be seen directly. When it flows in a wire only its existence can be experienced.

The absolute knowledge of the absolute God is impossible

The absolute knowledge of the absolute God is impossible because the absolute God is unimaginable. The absolute God comes in human form to give you the experience of His existence, in absence of which, you may deny the very existence of the absolute God and may become atheist (Astityeva….Veda). The identification of the human form in which the absolute God exists is the knowledge of God (Brahma Jnanam or Brahma Vidya).

The experience of the existence of the absolute God does not reveal any trace of the nature of the absolute God and hence God is always unimaginable. The only information about the absolute God is that God exists. “Aum Tat Sat” means that God exists and no more information about God is available. The word Tat means that God is beyond your imagination. The word Aum denotes that God is the creator, ruler and destroyer of this world. These three adjectives indicate the works (Creation, rule and destruction) of God only and not the nature of the God. This is called as the information about the existence only (Sanmatra vada). God comes in human form, which is characterized by the awareness or chit.
God is giving everything to all the people. What the necessity of the service to Him?
The absolute reality is that God does not require any service and sacrifice from any soul. In this state the creation does not exist itself. But He created the universe for entertainment. He gave independence and intelligence to all the souls. God has removed the knowledge that this entire universe is His wealth only. He imposed ignorance on Himself and on the souls. In the state of this ignorance only, through sacrifice and service the love is proved. Such love only gives happiness to heart. There can be no better entertainment than this. You are bringing out this point to escape form sacrifice and service. Such over intelligence arises due to your blind love on family and your selfishness.

If you go to that absolute state of reality, yourself and creation disappear. If your point is correct, don’t ask God for anything. You want Advaita when you give something to Him. You need Dvaita when He has to give some thing to you. If you do not aspire anything from Him, do not give anything to Him. Infact the highest devotion is to give everything to Him without aspiring anything from Him. But you are reverse to this. Apart from this, you show over intelligence!

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

dattaswami2 | Tue, 09/01/2009 - 10:44
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Hmmm? :-)

My understanding is that God is Existence/Totality, the seen and the unseen, Life. Every-Thing and No-Thing! ALL!!

So to translate this as I see it from:

"If you go to that absolute state of reality, yourself and creation disappear. If your point is correct, don’t ask God for anything. You want Advaita when you give something to Him. You need Dvaita when He has to give some thing to you. If you do not aspire anything from Him, do not give anything to Him. Infact the highest devotion is to give everything to Him without aspiring anything from Him. But you are reverse to this. Apart from this, you show over intelligence!"

to:

If you go to that absolute state of reality, yourself and creation disappear. If your point is correct, don’t ask LIFE for anything. You want Advaita when you give something to LIFE. You need Dvaita when LIFE has to give some thing to you. If you do not aspire anything from LIFE, do not give anything to LIFE. Infact the highest devotion is to give everything to LIFE without aspiring anything from LIFE. But you are reverse to this. Apart from this, you show over intelligence!

It is often very interesting to change out the word GOD to other words that is much broader, more abstract... :-)

Cos it is obvious that I live. Something in me is alive. What is it? It Exsist! It is LIVE/LIFE. I am aware of it!! I do not understand it trough my mind! I do not understand GOD/LIFE. I just live the mystery and if I can live totally in the present moment, in no mind, fully aware, I do not need something. In the stillness and peace I am happy and grateful. All, Life, Existence is there All ways!!

rebelsoul | Tue, 09/01/2009 - 12:25