Will Tantric sexual energy work in casual relationships?

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Tantra seems to be the most misunderstood term in the human history.

West thinks it is sexual energy and east thinks it is worship of female deity. Actually, Tantra is both and beyond them.

The first written text on Tantra seems to be Tirumantiram, an ancient Tamil classic, written by Tirumoolar, a sage who lived 3000 years ago.(Some judge his age to be 8000 years ago).

He has written more than 3000 four line verses dividing them into nine chapters. Each chapter deals with a particular theme like moral values, politics, family life, yoga, pranayama, meditation, samadhi etc.

Out of hundreds of topics he deals with, Pariyanga Yoga is one, which talks about sexual energy.

In that he says the couple should be dedicated, true to each other and male should be ten years older than the female. He then describes the techniques to be adopted in detail.

Tantra sexual energy can never work in casual or illicit relationships as some of the Westerners think.



avi's picture

Irrelevant at all

From your last sentence I conclude that you don't have any real experience with Tantra.

It seems you are enslaved by moral and cultural conditioning as many were in the past and in some areas also nowadays, and I suspect that you don't understand fully the essence of Tantra and of consciousness.

It is not a matter of westerners or not. It's a matter of energy flow and several consciousness-related valves. Tantra does not makes judgments, let alone ones based on your moral concepts. It is irrelevant if its a relationship or casual, some at later stages can even masturbate in order to start up the process.

Regardless of Tantra, work on getting free of concepts, especially cultural ones and leave the theory and just experience with Tantra with a good teacher, not a book.

avi | Wed, 06/15/2011 - 05:24
agapuram's picture

Thanks for sharing your

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

This is not based simply on the text, this is from my own real experience I am speaking. Based on my love with my wife for the past sixteen years, I have observed, as my love and devotion grows, the spiritual tantric experiences also grow.

In a casual, illicit relationship. the guilt or fear constricts the nadis and the tantric energy can not flow, even it flows not to higher levels.

In masturbation the case is different. As it happens inside a person's mind, he or she doesn't have any guilt or fear, and the flow is unrestricted.

The man and the women need not be married, they have to be true to each other and devoted, that is what I say.

agapuram | Wed, 06/15/2011 - 15:18
Quantum's picture

IF......

"...the guilt or fear constricts the nadis."

"IF" there is guilt and fear present.

Quantum | Wed, 06/15/2011 - 18:10
agapuram's picture

They are always present in

They are always present in various degrees, a lot more or a lot less.

agapuram | Thu, 06/16/2011 - 02:37
avi's picture

Erroneous logical inference

Your welcome. It's not an opinion.

You generelize your personal case and so arrive at wrong conclusions. Furthermore, you mix between by products and core essence.

The tantric technique has nothing to do with love and devotion, these may generate in your specific case due to your specific tendencies a certain sexual excitement that enhances the velocity of the sexual energy. In the case of someone else this may happen in case of anonymous sex which makes many very excited or in other cases due to eating cherries which some find very erotic.

Guilt and fear can be generated by anything including in the same way by marriage and long term relationship, what happens at work, a cat screaming outside or something that happened at age 3.5. Again you confuse between your special private case and the generic case. You may have guilt and fear regarding casual sex due to moral pressure your society implanted in you. Work on these conditionings and get free of it and it will not bother you anymore. In any case these have no circumstantial nor causal relation to the casual sex and to Tantra.

avi | Wed, 06/15/2011 - 20:48
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What I have written is based

What I have written is based both on knowledge from books and my personal life experience and also my experience with my clients as a psychotherapist.

If there is no fear or guilt in a person having free sex, whether he/she is in the east or west, why should there be a need for a psychologist, why there are diseases like AIDS, why there is an addiction to drugs?

The fear or guilt may vary in amount from culture to culture, but you can’t say there is nothing like that at all.

Sexual morality is not just a cultural conditioning, it is a very basic human instinct. Sexual morality comes from possessiveness. Do you say possessiveness too is a cultural conditioning? No, possessiveness is a basic instinct common to all, be east or west.

When a person feels possessive towards his/her partner, the partner also will have the same possessiveness. Here comes an agreement between them to be true to each other.

So please don’t say a person can have free sex without any fear or guilt. It is not possible. I am a psychotherapist treating hundreds of clients both from east and west.

agapuram | Thu, 06/16/2011 - 03:02
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A person may not notice it,

A person may not notice it, may overlook it or ignore it, but he/she can not have free sex without fear or guilt.

agapuram | Thu, 06/16/2011 - 03:28
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If you say ‘I don’t have

If you say ‘I don’t have any fear or guilt when I am having free sex’, it means you are ignorant of your feelings and emotions. It means you are very superficial, always live in the sensory field, never dived deep into your subconscious field.

agapuram | Thu, 06/16/2011 - 03:43
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It seems you don't have any

It seems you don't have any personal experience and just have quoted from some books on Tantra.

agapuram | Thu, 06/16/2011 - 04:01