Whether attachment to God is possible without self attainment

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Whether attachment to God is possible without self attainment

One way is to attain peace by the self attainment and then start the devotion towards the Lord. The mental peace achieved by self analysis is the intermediate station, where the traveler has to catch another train of devotion to God. Detachment from the world is a pre-requisite for the divine devotion. No doubt, the detachment from the world is certainly achieved by self attainment (Atma Yoga). Suppose, one starts the devotion to God without this Atma Yoga, what will happen? Detachment from X can be achieved even by attaching to Y. It is very common that by involving in some matter deeply, we forget every thing else. Hence, if one is deeply attached to God, he can get the detachment from the world without self attainment. In the self attainment also, the detachment from the world is only due to deep attachment to self. Similarly, one can attach himself or herself to God deeply and attain the same result.

The self can be replaced by God. Moreover, the additional advantage in the attachment to God is that the total time of the life is involved only in the attachment to God only. In the first path of self attainment and then devotion to God, half the time is wasted in self attainment. The direct attachment to God from the beginning is like traveling by the direct train which does not stop in the intermediate station. In this path of direct devotion to God also, the peace is attained as the intermediate station. It is the responsibility of the authorities of Railway to attach your compartment to the other train. This will be very safe like the Marjala Kishora Nyaya, where the mother catches the child and carries on it to the goal.

The first path of self attainment and then devotion to God is like Markata Kishora Nyaya, where the child has to catch the mother during the journey. Like this, the followers of the path of devotion mock at the followers of the path of knowledge. In such case, the path of knowledge becomes a waste before the path of devotion. All this is very nice to hear but on analysis the practical problems are realized. If this were true, why Lord Krishna started Gita with the path of knowledge only in the second chapter itself which is the beginning? If this were true, all the stress given by Shankara on the path of knowledge should have been foolish. Therefore, the path of direct devotion has certain loop holes in practice.

The first problem is that in the direct devotion, the devotee cannot be continuously in the devotion for all the time. The soul always needs some gap or some diversion in a continuous phase. When such diversion to world or gap comes in, immediately Maya (Illusion of feelings and forms) will catch the soul. The devotion is like the state of drinking divine wine by which one is certainly detached from the worldly problems. But one cannot be continuously drinking the wine. Whenever, a gap comes in, the forgotten problems attack him immediately. In order to protect the self from such attack, one cannot resort to the same devotion because continuity of anything bores, be it the divine nectar (Amrutam). This is the psychology of human beings. Therefore, something different from the devotion is needed to resist the Maya.

On such occasion, the spiritual knowledge is useful. The analysis of Maya is a part of the path of the self attainment. Therefore, the devotion integrated with the divine knowledge is the best path to resist Maya continuously. By the divine knowledge, the Maya is resisted and the strength in resistance is by God’s grace, which is attained only by devotion. Therefore, knowledge without devotion fails in practice though theoretically it is sufficient. You can know the truth by the knowledge. But to implement the truth in practice, the grace of God is required. Without practice there is no fruit for mere theoretical devotion. In fact, knowledge leads to devotion and strengths it further.

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there are 2 types of getting

there are 2 types of getting self realization.one is 2 get totally attached or else getting totally detacched

harsha | Fri, 07/01/2011 - 08:57
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Generally people think that salvation is related to God. Salvation is not at all related to God since it means only liberation from misery and stress and hence, is related to the soul and not God. Salvation can be achieved atleast temporarily with the help of a Psychiatrist or drugs etc. Salvation can also be achieved by self realization as propagated by Shankara and it can be achieved with self effort. He was in the time of atheists and hence, introduction of God was not indicated since the atheists do not relish it.

But, introduction of self is a higher level than the basic level of materialized gross body. Jumping from materialized body to energetic self will help the next jump, which is from subtle energetic self to unimaginable God. Therefore, Shankara laid up the foundation for the spiritual knowledge in the minds of atheists. If you identify yourself to the materialized human body, all the bonds with body trouble you throwing yourself into misery and tension. If you think that you are the subtle energy in the body, all these bonds with the materialized body get disconnected. In such case, you will have the salvation through self-realization. Thus, salvation is a topic of Pravrutti and hence, there is no reference of Nivrutti in this. Salvation is a natural instinct of every living being. Any living being tries to come out of the problems and hence, there is no relationship with God. It is the very basis of Pravrutti. Salvation is a natural instinct present in every living being. Even an insect tries to get rid of the tension. Hence, there is no element of divinity in salvation.
You may think that getting relief from problems and tensions and attaining peace and happiness is the highest level and call such state itself as God. In fact, Shankara called such state as God to satisfy the ego of atheists. But, by achieving such level through self-realization, the real status of the real God is not attained. Hence, the status of miraculous powers is not attained. In such case, it is only assumed imaginary status of God and not the real practical status of God. Shankara satisfied the atheists by another trick saying that such real status of God is unreal since the world is unreal. The controlling powers of the unreal world must be unreal. All this means that the real status of God is not relevant to you. He made the world as zero. Zero means unreal, which again means that it is not relevant to you in the present context.
Salvation is purely related to selfishness. You try to go near to God thinking that you will get the bliss from the blissful God. It is just like approaching the nearness of the fire to achieve heat in the winter. You can become close to God only when God is pleased with you. God is not like the inert fire to be approached at your wish. You must satisfy God in His tests through your sacrifice of anything including life for His sake. When God is satisfied by your true devotion, you will become very close to Him and this is called as ‘Sayujyam’, which is quite opposite to ‘Moksha’ or salvation. You have to prove yourself as a true devotee through practical sacrifice to attain Sayujyam. Sayujyam is the subject related to God (Nivrutti) and Moksha or salvation is subject related to you (Pravrutti). Hanuman tried to sacrifice His life in searching for Sita and Gopikas sacrificed their lives by jumping into fire after Krishna. Therefore, Nivrutti is full of sacrifice, problems and tensions, which is called as the path of thorns. Salvation or Pravrutti is the path of effort to achieve happiness for the self. The ignorant people due to lack of knowledge and analysis use the word salvation in the spiritual path. When Krishna was suffering with head-ache and the dust of the feet was declared as medicine, no devotee including the wives of Krishna and even Narada came forward fearing for the hell. Everybody wants relief from the torture of the hell even though God is tortured by the head-ache. But, Gopikas came forward to give dust from their feet and were ready to go to hell because their sole aim is only happiness of God and not the self happiness.
Therefore, all the devotees are in the path of salvation and Gopikas and Hanuman alone are in the path of Sayujyam. All the practices of Yoga are only medical exercises and are related to salvation only without any reference to God. But, ignorant people are mislead to think that Yoga is a divine practice related to God. Jesus gave life through crucifixion for the sake of God since it was the program designed by God. He imagined the torture and prayed Lord to avoid it if possible. This prayer indicates the climax of torture. But, finally, He said that the will of God must prevail. Through sacrifice and torture only Jesus became very close to God and sat on the right lap of the Lord. Since there is no liberation of the self from the tension here, this is not salvation but is a case of Sayujyam.
At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
Universal Spirituality for World Peace

dattaswami2 | Fri, 07/01/2011 - 09:37