where do thoughts come from?

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Many enlightend people say that thoughts are a physical reality(things).They also say that ''thoughts are not yours''.If this is true then why are we so identified with these thoughts?Do u all agree with this idea?.According to me it is unconscious mind that fuels conscious mind to think.All views are welcome:)



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Where thoughts are coming from...

Where thoughts are coming from?

You can easily find the answer by yourself by diligently observing your thoughts.

You will notice gross thoughts which are simply reactions to other previous thoughts or emotions or body sensations.

If you are very sensitive, you will also notice other type of thoughts - subtle thoughts. You will not be able to trace any source for the subtle thoughts as you easily did for the gross thoughts. They come from "nowhere" in terms of the scope of your observations. This nowhere is the collective mind.

Why are we so identified with the thoughts?

Again, if you investigate inside yourself you will find the answer: the reason is obvious - we identify with the thoughts since they give a false sense of control. We first identify with the body and individual self. This creates fear. We try to fight this fear with control the same way we try to do in trivial daily life. Logic and words (concepts) which are the building blocks of the thinking process build a limited model of reality with which we can feel that we understand reality and furthermore control it.

seeker | Wed, 02/18/2009 - 21:31
Phroggy's picture

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Yes, and just to rephrase, the thoughts occur spontaneously, whether triggered by another thought or a feeling or another sense perception or an unconscious desire or whatever, but the imaginary person naturally wants to lay claim to the thought and call it it's own, and once this is done, ego is then attached to the thought it claims and may have to defend it or feel guilty or proud, etc.

Phroggy | Thu, 02/19/2009 - 01:05
shond's picture

The reasons we are identified with the thinker

I think the same reasons provided in the excellent article http://www.gurusfeet.com/blog/3-reasons-why-you-believe-you-are-body-3-r... for the identifications with the body hold also for the identification with the thinker.

Just change the word "body" with "thoughts" and you will get the ultimate answer for why we are so identified with the thinker.

shond | Wed, 02/18/2009 - 21:52
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Thoughts are not yours

Thoughts are not "yours", but thoughts are not "someone else's" either. The idea of yours and mine are themselves thoughts, just arising as out of nowhere. They aren't anybody's in particular.

> According to me it is unconscious mind that fuels
> conscious mind to think

Compulsive thoughts based on "me and mine", yes, I agree. Thoughts can also be arisen by circumstances, situationally, and this is of course to keep the body functioning normally. No "me" is needed to control anything... situations bring their own necessity, and thoughts just arise normally to deal with them.

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Omkaradatta | Thu, 02/19/2009 - 01:12