A watcher which cannot be watched

banana's picture

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This who watches
is so quiet.
So quiet
that he is present
at all time.
So quiet
that he cannot be watched.
A watcher which cannot be watched.

This is the special meaning
of his quietness.
This is the meaning of presence.

shishmanidov35's picture

Mainly quietness of thoughts

Indeed, to be truly present in the here and now, one should be completely silent - silent of any thought movement, silent of any activity, and silent of any speech.

Presence means that your consciousness is here and now, not your body (which is always in the here and now) - it means your consciousness is not in your thoughts.

Therefore, when you are truly present - you feel that you are present rather than know that you are present. Once you start knowing that you are present, you are not present anymore, there is a thought: a thought that you are present. Instead, you feel the special transcendental quality of being present.

shishmanidov35 | Mon, 11/09/2009 - 08:14
kulchnaui's picture

Ultimate witness

See also the following posts which are very relevant and elaborating to the theme of this post:



kulchnaui | Mon, 11/09/2009 - 12:52
suzi's picture

The importance of quietness

Quietness cannot be overrated. Quietness of all faculties.

Effort looks like the hardest thing but there is one harder: not to do any effort, not to do, not to talk, not to think, just to be - which is quietness.

The most remarkable sages I met in my life were so quiet that it was almost impossible to find them.

Meditation is precisely about becoming quieter and quieter. Our mind is merely activity and nothing more - there is nothing that can be called mind if there is no activity. We are programmed to change, do, talk, think, fear and we fuel this programming with our terrible fear of emptiness, of boredom - when we understand our basic programming and cease to fear from emptiness and boredom we are enabled to step into the blessed kingdom of quietness - of being still.

suzi | Mon, 11/09/2009 - 22:30
Quantum's picture

Meditation and subconscious mind

Does meditation clean out the subconscious?

Quantum | Mon, 02/08/2010 - 20:21
joejo's picture

Meditation and Quietness

Classically there have been two approaches to realisation (pertaining to realisation) through meditation. One is the path of Yoga, which aims at quietening the mind. They aim to achieve a mind devoid of thought and this they call highest meditation.

The other path is to find out the truth about the meditator ( One who Meditates). This is popularly known by the name of inquiry. In this the emphasis is on Seer, the one who is aware of this silence. I specially mention this because in the beginning the aspirant could come to a blank. While in the first path this could be looked upon in an indulgent manner or even encouraged, in path of inquiry the aspirant is asked to focus on who is the observer.

Silence by the way is not the opposite of noise. All the noise or activities cannot disturb it. Ramana Maharshi the famous Advaitic sage said that the Gyani or Realised sage could be very active but his activities are rooted in silence.

So long insight does not arise mind could arrive at a stage of quitness but no sooner it emerges from retreat or practiced silence it would begin its activities.

In Hindu sciptures there is an example of Sage Jada (Inert) Bharat who was in Samadhi (Highest and complete absorption of mind) for many years but he fell a prey to illusion of attachment to a fawn.

Shankara the greatest advocate of Advaita adamantly maintained that highest state of unity cannot be achieved without direct Insight ( realisation).

joejo | Tue, 02/09/2010 - 14:38
Quantum's picture

What about love?

As in Corinthians Ch 13?

If I can sit in samadhi for years with a totally blank mind, yet aware that I am aware pure awareness....

...but have not love, I am nothing.

In other words, what good do all these hese mind trips amount to, if we don't have love?

(On the other hand, start a topic about the "coincidences" and "synchronicities" and how "things seem to work out" while practicing Present Moment Awareness...and I will have much to contribute.)

Quantum | Wed, 02/10/2010 - 05:58