Watch the tip of your nose from below

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Close your eyes and observe for some time the tip of your nose for any sensations. Just observe and feel the place, just be there.

Have you noticed that you observed your nose from above, that your point of observation, the center of reference, was from the level of the eyes.

The level of the eyes is tended to be for many of us, especially for the heavy thinkers, the place where they feel their "I" is located. It appears that there is no physiological reason for that, no special nerve center concerned with awareness or identity that is located there. It is probably because vision is the sense humans most rely on and consequently identify with and therefore you assume yourself to be located there. Plus, you associate your thinking (with which you are mostly identified) to take place around there somewhere in the head.

You also project this location of "I" on others: when you want to watch someone intimately, really watch "him" - you look at his eyes.

Now let's return to the exercise: close your eyes again and this time watch the top of your head. Naturally, you watch it from below (as your eyes are located below the top of your head). Then, slowly start shifting the object of your observation from the top of your head downwards until you reach the tip of your nose while maintaining all the time the point of observation to be always below the current body object observed.

Until you reach the level of your eyes with the observed object, you will, of course, not encounter any problem in keeping the point of observation below the object. When you pass the level of your eyes, try to keep on maintaining the point of observation below. Use the inertia of having the point of reference below until now and try to continue it while assuming for a minute that having the point of observation associated with the area of the eyes is just a belief (you will soon see that it is indeed so). You may encounter some difficulties in the beginning as you are strongly conditioned to associate your point of observation with the area of your eyes for many years. But after some trials, you will suddenly notice that you watch the tip of your nose from below!

See what happens later on during the day to your sense of "I" and to the level of your thinking.



seeker's picture

My "I" has relocated

mmm my sense of "I" has relocated to right above my upper lip. Interesting!

seeker | Thu, 09/04/2008 - 10:06
seeker's picture

after some time it returrned back

after some time it returrned back to the eyes level but then if i close my eyes and run againthe technique, even quickly, it resettles at above the upper lip.

seeker | Thu, 09/04/2008 - 14:13
dora's picture

when we are unconscious

Of course. When we are unconscious the "I" returns back to its conditioned place.

Keep on doing it and with time you will see that it finally settles in the new location.

More importantly, be aware to whatever happens to the intensity of thinking and specifically to the intensity of the I-thought. This is the real magic.

dora | Thu, 09/04/2008 - 14:37
mrkotians's picture

If So...

Let me go through this... and I will be back with my experience...

mrkotians | Thu, 07/01/2010 - 08:11
abra's picture

mmm interesting!

Haven't noticed until now that my eyes move when I observe sensations in my body and moreover, that they dictate the point of view. Surprising is the feeling to observe the node from below. I have managed to reach the area of the heart as the observing point (i.e. to refer to anything above the chest from below) but I fail to lower the point of reference any further.

abra | Thu, 09/11/2008 - 15:00
Phroggy's picture

Can you look at what you're doing?

Somebody tell me, please, what the advantage is of imagining where you are located in the body. Of course, we know it is entirely symbolic and you're not located at some place in the body, right? If thinking is important to you, you identify with the head. If feelings are more important, you identify with the heart. If you're sexually deprived, the I AM THAT I AM divine center of the I is postioned squarely between the legs.

This is all mental association, and isn't even accurate at that. Feelings don't actually happen in the heart and the mind isn't limited to the head. If you mentally associate with a certain area of the body, that's what it is. How does imagining you associate falsely with another symbolic part change anything? It's another story that you write for yourself as a technique to accomplish something, and then you play it out, imagining that your sense of self has changed somehow or your thoughts are calming down. It might work as long as you believe your own story, and then it will betray you just like every other story, every method, every technique.

Phroggy | Thu, 09/11/2008 - 16:57
mika's picture

you will find the advantage

you will find the advantage only when you try it instead of intellectualizing about it. Just try it and you will see by yourself, leave for one hour the second-hand radical theories and the judgment, just try it and you will see by yourself how transformative this exercise is.

a clue provided at the end of the post: "See what happens later on during the day to your sense of "I" and to the level of your thinking."

mika | Thu, 09/11/2008 - 17:47
nelo's picture

I agree

it is transformative and the only way is to test it.

nelo | Thu, 09/11/2008 - 20:21
Phroggy's picture

"you will find the advantage

"you will find the advantage only when you try it instead of intellectualizing about it. Just try it and you will see by yourself, leave for one hour the second-hand radical theories and the judgment, just try it and you will see by yourself how transformative this exercise is."

Okay, thanks.

Phroggy | Fri, 09/12/2008 - 02:46
suzame's picture

Have you ever done vipassana?

You are talking out of ignorance. It is very irresponsible to negate things based just on a mere theory or hypothetical opinion. Irresponsible mainly towards yourself. Anyone who ever did Vipassna, for example, will dismiss your above speculation right away. Feeling happens in the body as it is a mental abstraction of body sensations but this is irrelevant to the post which its aim is to dislocate the sense of "I" and thus shake it and shake the deep-rooted perception of the "I" feeling, similar and in accordance to what Ramana Maharshi talked about (the head, the heart center etc.)

suzame | Thu, 09/11/2008 - 20:09
Phroggy's picture

"You are talking out of

"You are talking out of ignorance. It is very irresponsible to negate things based just on a mere theory or hypothetical opinion."

Okay, sorry. I'll keep my ignorant theory and opinions to myself. Thanks.

Phroggy | Fri, 09/12/2008 - 02:49
Omkaradatta's picture

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Omkaradatta | Fri, 09/12/2008 - 03:30
madan_gautam's picture

tip of nose

I think to meditate on tip of nose/ watch the tip of nose is wrong .It is just theoretical and misunderstood from the ancient text.
The right technique is to concentrate/mediate in between your eye brows ,by watching tip of nose one can have permanent problems in eyes & by watching in between will result awakening of third eye.
This is my personal experience.
OM

madan_gautam | Fri, 10/03/2008 - 16:32
sonti's picture

Why comparing apples to bananas?

"I think to meditate on tip of nose/ watch the tip of nose is wrong .It is just theoretical and misunderstood from the ancient text."

You think or you have tried it? What is theoretical about it? It is a technique - either it works or not. Theoretical is to develop an opinion about something without checking it and needlessly evaluate it on the basis of comparison.

Which ancient text are you referring to? I don't see in the original post any mentioning of an ancient text source.

"The right technique is to concentrate/mediate in between your eye brows ,by watching tip of nose one can have permanent problems in eyes & by watching in between will result awakening of third eye."

The right technique? Is there only one purpose for techniques? Only one technique? Are you not eating rice just because you find Dhal containing protein?

Watching the the tip of the nose is a mental watching, not physical of course so I don't see any problem for the eyes :-)

The writer specifically states that the purpose of this technique is weakening the conditioned conviction that the "I" is located in the level of the eyes and not the awakening the third eye. Watching the 3rd eye not only that will not achieve that but will exactly strengthen this conviction.

Finally, my personal experience is that this simple technique is working wonderfully. I have used it since it was published whenever I feel that I am too much into thoughts, too identified with my mind.

sonti | Sun, 01/18/2009 - 14:26
lucas's picture

Great aid for self enquiry

Powerful technique, thank you so much. It lowers the level of mind activity considerably and blurs the sense of "I" (which is probably indeed associated with the area of the head).

It is a great aid for those who practice self enquiry.

lucas | Sun, 01/25/2009 - 23:06
Surya Kumar Mishra's picture

yes, it is

Concentrating on the tip of the nose is definitely an aid for self enquiry. When you are in the awaken state, the atman resides in the point between the eye brows. when we concentrate at this centre, the mind action gets reduced slowly. when we practise this for a longer time, it will make the mind still. this we we can still go further inside.
All yogi's please practise this technique.

God bless you !!!

Surya Kumar Mishra | Thu, 05/06/2010 - 12:56
Surya Kumar Mishra's picture

TIP of the nose is 180 degrees out of phase

Many people think that TIP of the nose means that nose point projecting outward.
It is infact, 180 degrees out of phase, means, it is the tip or the point that joins with the point between the two eye brows.
GOD Bless YOU, all yogis.
Stare on this nose tip, which is known as Kutastha.

Surya Kumar Mishra | Sun, 03/15/2009 - 07:40
carlito santo's picture

Great great great tool

The supernatural aspect of the kutastha sounds worthy of inspecting. Yet, I think the spark in the above technique is not the nose itself but simply the displacement of the subject using the nose as an object. It is a great technique because it is simple and yet touches a core identification with the brain and thoughts taken to be normal simply because we all share this misfortune.

Thanks for the clear description and sharing.

carlito santo | Fri, 04/17/2009 - 11:40
kamil's picture

Powerful technique

This is a damn powerful technique, unbelievable are the outcomes. Thank you.

It is similar to Osho's Headless meditation in which you imagine you have no head (from "Meditation - the first and last freedom" by Osho) but I find this nose perspective technique much more powerful and easier to perform.

There Osho explains that once you do it the center moves to the heart, the heart becomes more lovable - the same thing that happens to people who become blind - their other senses become more developed.

He also says there that prior to the globalized western influence Japanese used to believe that their thinking is taking place in the stomach and thus were mentally headless and thus their mind was less chaotic.

kamil | Fri, 06/05/2009 - 08:19
nancy pro's picture

Remarkable

I forgot to write this before: this technique proves to be remarkable. We initially tried it in a group about 2 months ago following this article and the results were unbelievable.

We found out that it is especially helpful for those who practice self enquiry, men, and westerners since all of these tend to have their perceived locus of "I" strongly positioned in the head usually in the level of the eyes.

nancy pro | Fri, 09/04/2009 - 14:50
shishmanidov35's picture

Remarkable

Remarkable trick! I must say.

It is a great tool for people who are analytical by nature, those who are heavily into mind, that respond from thinking rather from the guts. In short, most of us.

The biggest and most difficult challenge is the movement from the mind to the heart: until you abandon the thinking, until you relocate your locus to the heart, physically as it sounds: from the head to the heart, you will not have access to the portal, the portal of love. You may be very knowledgeable, you may develop sophisticated abstract formless views about reality and truth, you may have solid opinions about anything - these are worth nothing and deep down you know it. Relocate to the heart and you will laugh at all the analysis and opinions you used to count on and ride on.

And this technique is a classical one if you are ready to make the move. If not, your mind will come with all sorts of reasons why not, why not do this exercise, why not meditations, why not techniques, why not doing, why not anything, why not heart, why not, why not... It is ok, you will be ready when you are ripe, when the mind becomes less strong.

shishmanidov35 | Sun, 09/27/2009 - 14:08
joy's picture

Brilliant technique! wow!

This is such a brilliant technique! It indeed results in the so essential relocation of the sense of "I" from the thinking head.

It opened for me a new dimension, a dimesion of the heart which I couldn't identify nor reconnect with using any other method or healing.

Thank you!

joy | Sat, 04/17/2010 - 19:30