Valid Guru

genep's picture



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The Guru is LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE
an outside projection or hallucination of the "inner" Self.

he/she/IT/anything-and-anyone appears randomly
NOT with a dualistic cause-and-effect karma
but with a non-dualistic magic,
and appears to do things with the same magic.

when the valid Guru is a person/pervert/saint/psychopath/addict
IT would be the first to admit that IT can control nothing
least of all his/her thoughts

the valid Guru would be the first to admit
what nobody else can seem to imagine
let alone observe
let alone realize.

the Guru would be the first to admit
that he cannot think or do
because things happen with him, and around him
NOT with dualistic cause-and-effect karma
but with a non-dualistic magic
that makes It/him/her the Nothing
that in fact is Everything: Self.
-- O'no



zoya's picture

This is a beautiful piece

This is beautiful but I think there is an important flaw in it:

It is not that the true non-personalized guru self CAN'T (e.g. The guru can control what we refer to as "his/her thoughts") , it is that he finds no interest or reason whatsoever in doing so.

It is much more profound then the popular quick assumption of just negatiing of will and doer.

zoya | Thu, 04/23/2009 - 06:57
Phroggy's picture

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Even the interest or lack of interest is not under the guru's control. What is realized is that there is no person present, and so there is no imagined overlay of control and the mind/body is left alone to do what it does. It may teach or it may go back to bagging groceries according to the nature of the mind/body, not the nature of some guru, which is Beingness itself. What is realized is that there is no will or doer or thinker, so naturally there is no real interest in it.

Phroggy | Fri, 04/24/2009 - 17:44
Omkaradatta's picture

Interest

"It may teach or it may go back to bagging groceries according to the nature of the mind/body,"

Whatever it goes back to doing, it's gonna be much more interesting and meaningful than 'before', when a will/doer was assumed. This is what folks seem to miss constantly -- the fact that paying attention to the meaningless and nonexistent (ego) results in a meaningless, nonexistent life... shallow, on-the-surface, based on repeated imaginary thoughts and associated feelings.

http://www.omkaradatta.info

Omkaradatta | Fri, 04/24/2009 - 19:34
MAI's picture

Valid guru...

"Outer projection of inner self..."
What "inner self" ? There isn't one.
Only conceptual thoughts of...a so called self.

TRUTH,LOVE,PEACE
MAI

MAI | Sat, 05/12/2012 - 08:43