Unfortunate Advaitin, Salvation

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Unfortunate Advaitin, Salvation

The self-realization leads to liberation of the soul from the worldly bonds. You must be relieved from the worldly attachments if you are determined to join the service of the Lord. If you are joining the new institution, you must be relieved from the old institution. By self-realization, you are relieved from the worldly bonds and you are expected to join the new institution i.e. the service of the Lord. Such relieving is not the retirement, so that you can stay in your house leisurely without any activity. Similarly by self-realization, when you are relieved from the worldly bonds, it should not mean that you should continue in that state without any bond. You are relieved from the old bonds to strengthen the new divine bond with God. After leaving the old job, you are expected to do the new job with more vigor. After cutting the worldly love, you are expected to love God more vigorously. But the Advaita philosopher is continuing in the state of no love after cutting the worldly love. Instead of achieving a better goal, the case became worse. The anesthesia is given to perform the operation so that you are relieved from the disease and live with more happiness. After the operation also, anesthesia may be given to relieve you from the pains. But the case of Advaita philosopher is unfortunate because he has gone into continuous coma after the operation. In such case it would have been better if the operation is not done so that at least, he will live with the disease. Here, the self-realization (Yoga) is the anesthesia.

The process of operation is liberation (Moksha) from worldly bonds. After this liberation, the liberated soul is expected to join the service of the Lord with more vigor. Just like after the operation, the patient is expected to be more active in his life. But unfortunately after the liberation, the Advaita philosopher continues in the same state of self-realization (coma) only. This unfortunate situation developed because the patient wants anesthesia and operation for getting continuous coma only. The goal is prefixed by the patient. Similarly, the Advaita philosopher has fixed the goal of self-realization and liberation as the continuity of himself in the state of self-realization (self-attainment) only. His goal is Brahman, which is pure awareness without any quality or thought or feeling (Nirgunachit). Even if all the thoughts are removed as in the state of meditation, the thought of self-awareness exists. Therefore there is no awareness without thought (Guna). The awareness without any thought, which is the complete Nirgunachit, is nothing but the inert energy, which is the essential form of the awareness as obtained in the deep sleep (Sushuptyekasiddhah –Sankara).

Such state is nothing but the state of a tree or a stone, in which the mind (all the thoughts) is totally destroyed (Manolayayoga). The childish Advaitin calls such state as the state of Brahman in ultimate reality. He wants to remain as inert energy in the cosmos, which is the soul in the highest state (deep sleep) in his words! I am deeply pained at this pitiable condition of such human beings who are misled like this. The soul of Advaitin continuing in this state of thoughtless inert energy cannot disappear from the cosmos, because the primary cosmic energy will never disappear as per the will of God. It is retained for storing the entire film of the world as a reel at the end of this world show. Let this unfortunate Advaitin become a tree or a stone so that at least he will be useful in serving a devotee. A devotee maybe fed with the fruits of such tree or the devotee can sit on such stone for praying the God. Therefore instead of remaining as a part of the cosmic inert energy or becoming the entire cosmic energy by merging in it, such rebirth as a tree or stone is only due to the grace of God on him. The realization should lead to the liberation of the soul from the worldly bonds and not from the bond with God. If all bonds are removed, he will be neither here nor there. It is better if he remains in the worldly bonds having at least some disturbed entertainment in the world. At least this is better if he is unable to get the divine bliss in the divine love with the God. It is better to have ‘Goli Soda’ if the ‘goldspot’ drink is not available. It is better to have worldly bonds if the bond with God is not available. In fact, after tasting the gold spot, the golisoda is spontaneously rejected. Thus rejection of golisoda has only one sole aim, which is the goldspot.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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My suggestion would be to check with the Advaita philosopher to see what Self realization means.

Phroggy | Sat, 12/27/2008 - 19:08
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Absolutely

"The realization should lead to the liberation of the soul from the worldly bonds and not from the bond with God."

Any bond present constitutes bondage, nyet?

Not to mention, what the heck is an "advaita philosopher" anyway, and what is one after Self-realization? Both Nisargadatta and Ramana talked extensively and philosophically... were they 'advaita philosophers'?

The above text shows a rejection, a dislike, a deep lack of acceptance of something. No 'Self-realized' one would be talking this way.

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Omkaradatta | Sat, 12/27/2008 - 21:03
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Yeah, it seems to be an Advaita backlash, as though the teachings and teachers of that origin are being dismissed as false teachings and philosophers. I've heard many reject what's come to be called 'neo-Advaita', but never heard anybody dismiss Advaita entirely before, if that's what he's doing. It's a somewhat Christian belief system he's espousing, so maybe it's to be expected.

Phroggy | Sat, 12/27/2008 - 23:06
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Preachers of Advaita often

Preachers of Advaita often mislead the devotees by stating that the soul which is made of pure awareness (Chit) is simultaneously bliss (Ananda). This is an utter lie in practice. If the soul is simultaneously bliss, no soul should receive misery. Hence the fire is hot everywhere and should not be cool anywhere. Similarly they say that the soul is simultaneously knowledge. They have taken the meaning of knowledge (Jnanam) as chit (pure awareness)! If this is true, the awareness is present in every living being and hence every living being should have simultaneously the knowledge. We are calling even a human being (supposed to be the highest living being) as ignorant and such usage should not exist as there should be no ignorant living being.
At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

dattaswami2 | Sun, 12/28/2008 - 06:34
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Every human being is not God

Veda says that the five parts (Koshas) starting from gross body made of food (Annam) are Brahman. If you take these five parts in the case of an ordinary human being, the word Brahman stands for the greatest item in a category. The Sanskrit Dictionary (Amara Kosha) allows such alternative meaning, which is derived from its root word. Gita also gives the example for such alternative usage and Brahman is used to mean Veda, which is the greatest among the scriptures (Brahmaakshara...).

If you take the word Brahman in the sense of God, then the case of human being will be the case of human incarnation, in which case, every part becomes God just like the live wire is treated as current in every part internally and externally (Antarbahischa… Veda). You cannot take the case of ordinary human being and the sense of God for the word Brahman together and say that every human being is God. Even in that way, you cannot say that the awareness alone is God because even the gross body is said to be God in Veda in the context of Pancha Koshas. Advaita, which restricts only the pure awareness (Soul) or causal body as God cannot fit itself even in such line of misinterpretation.

At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony
www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org

dattaswami2 | Sun, 12/28/2008 - 06:38
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In Advaita, all is One. There are no parts to Oneness, and so if you insist on referring to a part, then yes, it is Oneness. Human....Oneness. Tree....Oneness. Advaita means 'one, not two'. There is no room in Advaita for multiple souls or separate individuals who can declare themselves God or One. So you are right, human beings are not God. No human being is God, and yet everything is an expression of Oneness and so is not other than God.

Self realization does not make you a Self realized person who then must do something. Self realization is the realization that there is no person, just Oneness, and you are That.

There are no doubt some odd teachings that call themselves Advaita, but from what I can tell, it seems to be mostly your misinterpretation as you try to blend what you believe with Advaita. Why not study Nisargadatta, or Ramesh or Ramana or any of the well known contemporary teachers like Adyashanti, Mooji, Tony Parsons? You won't hear stories about multiple souls of bliss and egos being Gods and God being a thing.

Phroggy | Sun, 12/28/2008 - 07:41