True guru-disciple relationship, nothing less

enlight's picture

Average: 4.8 (5 votes)

Do you, spiritual seeker, take this great master to be your lovely wedded guru through sickness and through health, as long as you both shall live?

I do!

And do you, great master, take this seeker to be your lovely wedded disciple through sickness and through health, as long as you both shall live?


You may now kiss the disciple a kiss of great grace, if you wish.

Any perceived differences, inappropriate thoughts, sexual connotations, or difficult reservations are all in your mind. Yet, do not avoid them, they are natural as you are conditioned by years of social rules and rigid taboos, even about concepts and connotations. work on these! This work is essential to break all unnecessary mental and emotional barriers that stand between you and your guru.

dora's picture


This is a unique perspective about the guru-disciple relationship and with all the undesirable connotations (e.g. sexual, romantic), I can't find a fault in the presentation. Moreover, it sound beautiful and authentic to anyone who ever was in a substantial discipleship with a guru.

As you state - it is all in our minds, full of forbidden zones, concepts and energies declared as obscene. How can an energy be obscene?

dora | Tue, 07/07/2009 - 17:06
Francine Billotti's picture

Guru/Disciple relationship

'Thoughts arise'...karma, past, present and future will determine which of these I give attention. That's how I understand it. Guru/Disciple relationship was a marriage for me. I actually proposed to my Guru after a month of knowing him. What I didn't "realize" at the time of the "ceremony" was if someone else "needed" this, another marriage would take place. Like in the world, when "cheated" on a number of scenarios take place. In my experience I left the yoga, not the Guru. Just last night I had a "visit" from my Guru.

As painful as it was, it was in my best interest...

Francine Billotti | Thu, 07/09/2009 - 15:54
santana's picture

Love is love

Great depiction. Cast off all conceptual connotations. A lover, a guru, a mother. Love is love. Relationship is relationship. A link is a link.

Do you feel the change? Do you feel now the different quality of the energy?

santana | Sun, 07/12/2009 - 10:01
Elijah_NatureBoy's picture

That's Brainwashing

From my experiences every guru-disciple relationship is open handed, nothing binds them together.

The only way students can know the truth of the teacher is prove the teachings to themselves. Disciple actually means disciplined, but to accept a teaching without proof it is not disciplined but brainwashed. To be disciplined one must understand fully the purpose for... and decide for themselves to live according to their findings.

Every disciple is actually a guru themselves. The discipline is to the understanding and not to the teacher. What you are suggesting is students are never to become equal to the teacher, since the teacher is supposed to also be growing that is true, but the evolved place of the teacher at the time of instructing the student is to be reach by the student upon proving them.

It is like the father who is 30 times the age of the child in 5 years will be only 7 times its age, in 10 more years he will only be 3 times its age, but so long as the father lives the child will never reach the age of the father. So it is with the guru, the students stays the same distance from the teacher's level of understanding but they always reach the level of his instructing.

Have you questioned your beliefs? Reason the different concepts until all pros and cons are integrated into the 64,800 degrees of your vision.
--Elijah "NatureBoy"--

Elijah_NatureBoy | Wed, 04/07/2010 - 01:37