There is no secondthing other than nondual spirit or Ataman

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The whole experience of diversity has its origin in Ataman or spirit.During the waking state and dream depends on Ataman or spirit of their existence.During the deep sleep the waking and dream merges with Ataman or spirit. Therefore there is no second thing other than Ataman or spirit. Hence it is non dual.

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Have you experienced this firsthand?

Have you experienced this firsthand?

Luz76 | Sat, 07/12/2008 - 06:39
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Hi devid,

When the seeking mind becomes aware of the its formless non dual substance, it becomes fully aware of the fact that the whole experience of diversity is created,sustained and dissolves and finally remains as one substance. When the mind is fully aware of the fact there is no second thing other then non dual spirit and the experience and the experiencer are one in essence, there is no question me as a person experiencing it. since person and the world are part of the illusory experience of duality.

Person and his experience of the world[DUALITY] ceases to exist as reality when wisdom dawns. The mind will be able to view and judge the experience of duality on the standpoint of spirit. Once this is happens, it gets the same non dual peace which it experienced in deep sleep unconsciously,it will experience it consciously in the midst of the experience of duality or diversity.


santthosh kumaar | Sun, 07/13/2008 - 11:37
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Dear, you haven't answered the question.

Sorry dear, you haven't answered the question.

Please, the answer should be very simple: yes or no.

Have you personally experiences non duality?

If the answer is yes, I am committing here to read all your blog posts.

If the answer is no then all you write is pure theory, it might be true (as testify some sages who experienced it like Nisargadatta Maharaj) but from your non-experienced place it is yet just another theory. Holding to theories will not help you much as all this understanding is purely intellectual. In fantasizing this experience of non-duality instead of starting from and accepting the state in which you are currently are, you are doing to yourself a damage.

The only reality certain for you is the "what is" right now. All else may be easily negated. Start from there otherwise you will be stuck forever in your mind. Believe me, I have been there.

I ask again, please kindly answer a honest and direct answer so that I could decide whether to read your many blog posts:

Have you personally experienced non-duality? YES / NO


Luz76 | Sun, 07/13/2008 - 12:40
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you have not answered the queation

Dear David,
I have answered your question already. YOU ARE UNABLE TO GRASP IT SINCE YOU VIEW AND JUDGE IT ON THE FALSE SELF. Your question is on the standpoint of the false self. If I say I have experienced then it is a false claim. Since my answer is based on the true self which is spirit.

How can any experience be there when the mind is aware everything is created out of spirit, even in the midst of the experience of diversity the mind is conscious that everything is created out spirit. Only when the mind views and judges the worldview on the standpoint of true self, then only one can give judgment on it whether it is a theory or it is not a theory.

All the theories are based on the 'I' or ego base.I am talking about the invisible witness of the ego or duality. It is impossible to grasp the non dual truth by reading few blogs. One has to do his own home-work and train the mind to view and judge the worldview on the standpoint the true self which is Ataman or spirit.

One will be able to understand the answer only when his mind learns to view and judge on the true self which is non dual spirit.

I do not pretend to please the intellectually infirm; but trying to help and guide spiritually inclined.
Thank you for your response.I admire your intellectual capacity. But it has to be used on the true base to unfold the mystery to become experience-less in midst of the experience. Then only you will realize you are not your own experience, but something else is experiencing you. Thus how can you claim as your experience as yours when something invisible is experiencing you. Become aware and realize of that invisible entity you will find all answers for your questions and doubts and confusion without any aid.
With respect and regards

santthosh kumaar | Sun, 07/13/2008 - 17:14