There is no more divine than you right now.

jody's picture



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There is no such thing as "more" divine. Divinity is equally distributed as primordial awareness. Everyone has it, regardless of status, disposition, or state of enlightenment.

Gurus who use the idea that they are more divine, either by saying so themselves or by letting others do so for them, are fraudulent.

There are several reasons they may make this claim. They could be deluded, or desirous of more followers. Claiming to be divine and capable of miracles is what drives most business to gurus.

If a guru is truly enlightened, they know that their enlightenment does not make them any different than anyone else, whether or not they are enlightened too. It's just seeing the always present and ongoing truth, rather than coming to any kind of new or special vision.

If you want to follow a guru, find one who claims nothing for themselves, nor allows others to make any claims for them. These folk are not invested in having you put them up on a pedestal. That's where enlightenment has always been, on the ground floor of who we are right now.



angel76's picture

I liked what you wrote

I liked what you wrote. A question:

How do you exactly define "divine"?

angel76 | Sun, 12/13/2009 - 22:39
kamil's picture

Are you willing to be operated by anyone other than a doctor?

Good question, the whole thesis is dependent on the definition of "divine" - this word has so many connotations.

"If a guru is truly enlightened, they know that their enlightenment does not make them any different than anyone else, whether or not they are enlightened too."

Of course enlightenment makes them different. It is like saying that a PhD degree in medicine does not make someone different and more proficient in medicine so I am willing that anyone will operate me regardless of knowledge and capabilities.

The superiority of a true realized guru indeed should not be exaggerated but also should not be underestimated

kamil | Mon, 12/14/2009 - 11:04
abra's picture

Absolute vs. realtive realities

Good questions, no answers...

I think it is the same issue of perspectives - in terms of relative reality in which we live there is difference, in terms of absolute reality there is no difference but as we do not live in this perspective it is just a theory for us so I'm not sure how effective it is at all to discuss absolute reality.

abra | Tue, 12/15/2009 - 18:13