spiritual healing

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The channeling of healing energy from its spiritual source to someone who needs it is called spiritual healing. The channel is usually a person, whom we call a healer, and the healing energy is usually transferred to the patient through the healer's hands. The healing does not come from the healer, but through him. The treatment works on the body, mind and spirit, which are seen as one unit that must harmonize for good health. The spiritual healing can help mental and emotional problems and physical conditions such as a frozen shoulder.

Reiki: Reiki is a simple, natural and safe method of spiritual healing and self-improvement that everyone can

use. It is effective virtually in every known illness and malady and creates a beneficial effect. It works in conjunction with all other medical techniques to relieve side effects and promote recovery, Reiki treats the whole person including body, emotions, mind and spirit creating many beneficial effects that include relaxation and feelings of peace, security and well-being.

Hypnotherapy: Hypnotherapy helps in:
Utilising the power of your own mind
Take control of your life
Learn to relax deeply
Achieve your goals
Eliminate unwanted behaviour
Deal with your problems in your life

It also helps in curing many habits like smoking and drinking alcohol and number of other conditions like Panic attacks,Jealousy ,Guilt ,Low self- Esteem ,Lack of confidence ,Nail biting,
Poor sleep patterns ,Deep seated compulsions



Omkaradatta's picture

Hypnotherapy

It can probably cure/do anything, as suggestibility is our usual state, the state of 'ego'. As the world is imaginary and we are not really the body, inserting some more imagination and altering the 'self image' (which is in the mind) can surely work miracles. A sage would be un-hypnotizable and un-suggestable by default.

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 06:36
nelo's picture

maya maya maya

Healing is not more imagination than anything else which resides or affects whatever in your psyche, including your thesis. It is a practical tool for assisting people.

There is no point in tunneling any spiritual discussion, especially ones which are specific and focused, to the maya theory stuff. There is a place for other methods, spiritual theories, concepts, levels. Imagine to yourself that every time you post a blog about "Am I the body", I would divert the subject to a discussion about the composition of the body tissues or to benefit of praying to the health of the body according to Christianity... We have already understood the standpoint of the maya theory, there is no point in negating religiously over and over every approach suggested just because, as everything else, it takes place in reality.

"As the world is imaginary and we are not really the body..."

In the same way, you can apply the above maya theory conclusion also on eating and drinking, so why don't you stop eating and drinking? or on going to the doctor, taking a pill, undergoing an operation, stopping at a red light... you got the point...

The maya stuff is just a theory and not a fact and we should always make sure to keep this in mind in order not to turn seamlessly into religious close-minded people.

nelo | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 07:44
atlantis's picture

i agree

Krishnamurti emphasized many times that true listening is listening not in a comparative way based on what you believe or heard before but afresh, otherwise there is actually no listening at all, just defending and rephrasing your old concepts and unnoticeable you remain blocked.

atlantis | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 08:14
Phroggy's picture

So, apparently you agree

So, apparently you agree with Omkar that it's a method that will work and has practical value, so I wonder why you agree so disagreeably. (I don't really of course)

If we were on a medical forum, it might be appropriate to divert a spiritual discussion to one of composition of body tissues, but this seems to be a spirituality forum. If you want to introduce Christian healing prayer, that's certainly your perrogative, and if somebody tells you to stop 'religiously' offering your religious perspective, I would likely support you.

As far as maya being a theory, this also isn't a science forum.

Phroggy | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 08:24
Omkaradatta's picture

People seem bothered...

People seem bothered to have their spiritual belief systems "challenged", which comes as no surprise here. If I had worded it in some magical terms and ended it with PranAms and Hari OM, probably it would have been received better ;-).

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 09:13
nelo's picture

It can be said also about

It can be said also about you :-)

But actually it is not a true challenging, it is just putting one theory against the other. Challenging is focusing on or inspecting something in an underlying theory (e.g. healing) WITHOUT relying on another theory.

Both healing and advaita are theories and both are acceptable as such, it is just that there is no point in constantly putting them together against each other. Let have discussions about reiky, discussions about praying, discussions about meditations, discussions about mantras and discussions about advaita etc. Sometimes, based on the context, it is beneficial to compare and debate but when it is constantly the same sweeping one slogan than it is completely pointless and may i say even a bit boring.

As someone noted here reading without mind empty of previous believes, reading with always comparing against what is known, is actually not really reading.

My path BTW is advaita! and still i am open to anything and very careful not to make it into an agenda.

nelo | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 10:24
Omkaradatta's picture

Advaita is a theory?

"Both healing and advaita are theories"

Funny, I could have sworn it's the wordless Reality.

Maybe you're right, and I should keep quiet about non-advaitic or sideways-advaita type stuff. I'm posting a bit too much lately, perhaps.

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 11:19
leo's picture

Of course it is a theory. A

Of course it is a theory. A favorable one to many spiritual people (to the skeptics it sounds of course as nonsense) but still a theory.

leo | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 14:14
Omkaradatta's picture

All words are theory

If Advaita is 'direct experience', it isn't a theory. One who cannot say with assurance that it isn't a theory is asleep, in my view.

Q: Then, how do you know you are in the supreme state?

Nisargadatta: Because I am in it. It is the only natural state.

Advaita is a theory in the same sense that the phrase "I am alive" is a theory. That isn't a theory here, and neither is Advaita.

This (I think) is what's irritating folks... I am talking with assurance about what, to them, is only a theory. It has irritated them since 'waking up' in January, and it still does. If I published a book, it would probably be welcome (maybe I'd get famous, heheh), but free material on a website? ;-).

People put far too much stock in words. That's another aspect of the issue. Shuffling around maps will not bring folks to the actual territory. Nothing will, because they themselves are the territory in question -- only the illusion has to be seen through, that's all.

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 17:49
Phroggy's picture

Villagers with pitchforks

"This (I think) is what's irritating folks... I am talking with assurance about what, to them, is only a theory. It has irritated them since 'waking up' in January, and it still does."

Yup, and as I mentioned back then, it always will. If you can convince others that they can get something from you, they'll love you. If you can't, they'll hate you and never stop trying to destroy you. If I weren't still seeking myself, I'd never speak a word about spirituality to anyone. In the meat world, I rarely encounter such ugliness as I have on internet forums of 'seekers of Truth'. This particular forum, of course, is very tame in comparison to most, but the need to destroy is still very evident.

Phroggy | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 17:59
Omkaradatta's picture

Don't be so sure about...

"If I weren't still seeking myself, I'd never speak a word about spirituality to anyone."

Don't be so sure. There isn't much choice in the matter, although you might be a bit smarter and publish a book or something ;-).

"If you can't, they'll hate you and never stop trying to destroy you."

No worries there. There's nothing to destroy. If they were 'real' pitchforks, it might be more of a concern tho ;-).

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 18:15
Phroggy's picture

If I had sumthin to feed ego

If I had sumthin to feed ego I could charge for books and seminars and workshops and such, but I really don't have any ego food to sell. Shucks. :(

Phroggy | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 19:12
Omkaradatta's picture

I know the feeling...

... then again, have you ever heard of sprinkling a capsule into applesauce? :-).

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 20:36
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This is exactly the point,

This is exactly the point, spirituality is NOT only the maya theory and it is pointless to repeat it all over against everything else posted which is not advaita :-)

Annie | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 10:14
Phroggy's picture

Pointless, boring theory.

Hi Annie

"This is exactly the point, spirituality is NOT only the maya theory and it is pointless to repeat it all over against everything else posted which is not advaita"

It's true that spirituality covers a huge range of beliefs and practices, and if somebody is here talking about Christianity and witchcraft and satanism and the violet ray of the twelfth dimension of Uranus, it would be pointless to talk about the teachings of the gurus and Advaita and nonduality and Truth, but the forum is called 'gurusfeet' and there are pictures of gurus and we earn karma point (WooHoo!), so the implication is that talk of maya and Truth and Advaita and nonduality is both welcomed and encouraged here, and it's likely that posts about the practice of sacrificing virgins to the Sun God, as exciting as that discussion might be, will be challenged with some boring nonduality.

What I read in Omkar's post that seems to have upset everybody is that yes, such healing practices will perhaps work and here's why...It was then talked about in the context of the subject of this forum. It was not dismissed and no rotten tomatoes were thrown, so what's the problem?

The problem is exacltly what he said in a later post here which irritated folks even more. People don't like having their beliefs challenged, even within the context of nonduality and Truth seeking.

In that context we want to call the teachings of the Awakened masters, theories. This is silly. These are not scientific theories to be tested in the laboratory. Do you go to Satsangs and interrogate the teacher about his theories and tell him his ideas are boring and that he shouldn't analyze so much? Truth seeking also involves devotion, faith, intuition, clarity beyond mind's conceptual boundaries and a willingness to continually challenge what we think we know.

The irritation at the "pointless" repetition of nondual teachings is the resistance to letting go of the ignorance of believing there is a technique that will finally work, which flies in the face of the very teachings we pretend to be following.

Phroggy | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 17:18
Omkaradatta's picture

Maya

"In the same way, you can apply the above maya theory conclusion also on eating and drinking, so why don't you stop eating and drinking?"

I'm not eating or drinking, the body is. I know it sounds like a standard 'nondual point', but it is not just theory.

"or on going to the doctor, taking a pill, undergoing an operation, stopping at a red light... you got the point..."

I did... did you get this one?

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 09:09
nelo's picture

so it is my body that gives

so it is my body that gives the healing and my body that gets the healing....

nelo | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 14:37
Omkaradatta's picture

Yes, true...

Didn't I say it could surely work miracles? Hypnosis has been shown even to to raise burn marks on the skin, when the subject is convinced they have been burned through suggestion. The body can get healed, the mind can get healed (or at least feeling better). Our spirit is already whole, and not in need of any healing.

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Omkaradatta | Wed, 09/17/2008 - 18:50