Some Zen Stories for Contemplation

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THE STUDENT Doko came to a Zen master, and said: "I am seeking the
truth. In what state of mind should I train myself, so as to find
it?"

Said the master, "There is no mind, so you cannot put it in any
state. There is no truth, so you cannot train yourself for it."

"If there is no mind to train, and no truth to find, why do you
have these monks gather before you every day to study Zen and
train themselves for this study?"

"But I haven't an inch of room here," said the master, so how
could the monks gather? I have no tongue, so how could I call them
together or teach them?"

"Oh, how can you lie like this?" asked Doko. "But if I have no
tongue to talk to others, how can I lie to you?" asked the master.

Then Doko said sadly, "I cannot follow you. I cannot understand
you.

"I cannot understand myself," said the master.

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A MASTER was asked the question, "What is the Way?" by a curious
monk.

"It is right before your eyes," said the master.

"Why do I not see it for myself?"

"Because you are thinking of yourself."

"What about you: do you see it?"

"So long as you see double, saying I don't and you do, and so on,
your eyes are clouded," said the master.

"When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' can one see it?"

"When there is neither 'I' nor 'You,' who is the one that wants to see it?"

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JOSHU asked the teacher Nansen, "What is the true Way?"

Nansen answered, "Everyday way is the true Way."

Joshu asked, "Can I study it?"

Nansen answered, "The more you study, the further from the Way."

Joshu asked, "If I don't study it, how can I know it?"

Nansen answered, "The Way does not belong to things seen: nor to
things unseen. It does not belong to things known: nor to things
unknown. Do not seek it, study it, or name it. To find yourself on
it, open yourself wide as the sky."

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Once a student asked old Joshu: "You teach that we must empty our
minds. I have nothing in my mind. Now what shall I do?"

"Throw it out!" said Joshu.

"But I have nothing. How can I throw it out?"

"If you can't throw it out, carry it out! Drive it out! Empty it
out! But don't stand there in front of me with nothing in your
mind!"

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SUBHUTI, a disciple of Buddha, had reached the enlightenment of
Great Emptiness, where the Eternal Real and the passing unreal are
one. Sitting under a tree in this enlightenment, he found flowers
drifting down on him from the tree. And he heard voices. "We are
praising your eloquence on Emptiness," said these voices like
gods' voices.

"But I have not spoken of Emptiness," murmured Subhuti.

"You have not spoken of it. We have not heard it. This is true

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ONE WINDY day two monks were arguing about a flapping banner.

The first said, "I say the banner is moving, not the wind."

The second said, "I say the wind is moving, not the banner.'

A third monk passed by and said, "The wind is not moving. The
banner is not moving. Your minds are moving."



Phroggy's picture

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"Nansen answered, "The Way does not belong to things seen: nor to
things unseen. It does not belong to things known: nor to things
unknown. Do not seek it, study it, or name it. To find yourself on
it, open yourself wide as the sky."

Perfectly Onederful. How much of the nonsense would cease if we took this to heart?

Phroggy | Sun, 01/04/2009 - 22:12
Quantum's picture

Yes, but...come now,

How do you train a 3 year old in this? How does a 3 year old apply any of this abstract stuff?

Easier, and more lovely, and comforting, and peaceful, and loving, to me, to see a child pray to God, to thank God for our Blessings, and to Bless mommy and daddy, and everyone.

I feel so sorry for anyone who cannot understand this.

Quantum | Mon, 10/12/2009 - 17:52
PranaBeats's picture

Why train?

In my opinion, the question is more: why can't you be free like the 3 year old who understands this naturally? I find that adult minds believe we have to train and control the free child but he or she already understands beingness, play and freedom without you having to explain it. Please don't put God in between the child and him/herself. Let them be.

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sat, 05/01/2010 - 06:21
Quantum's picture

Where in my post ....

...did I say I trained a child to pray to God? You simply assumed I did. But read it again carefully.

Aside from that mis reading on your part, I agree with your opinion about children already being. And naturally, at that. Yes, in my opinion, they got it going on more so than adults; it would be a shame to try to teach them what they already are. I figured that some some time ago. That is why I do not teach my son religion. I do not tell him he needs to go to church. I will not put him through that.

He "Is".

Quantum | Sun, 05/02/2010 - 07:06
PranaBeats's picture

constructed assumption

I did assume because that's how it appeared to me in the construction of your idea.

I'm glad we understand each other. :)

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:56
Quantum's picture

Yes, we do.. :)

Your post that I critiqued, without the title, the body of post taken taken by itself speaks volumes and is very accurate, in my view.

I read it a few times out of the context of a reply to my post, and I find it very ...telling.

I need to make it a way of being in relation to offspring. And not lose sight of the wisdom conveyed there. Yes, Jesus did point this out, and you added clarity to it.

Quantum | Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:40