So, there's what to worry about ?

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Like, water is preasent in Juice and Wine, similarly God is preasent in Paradise and Hell.

Like, the work of water is to LIQUEFY Juice & Wine, similarly the work of God is to SPIRITIFY, Paradise and Hell.

Like, Juice & WIne cannot spoil the LIQUIDITY of water preasent in juice and wine, similarly Paradise and Hell cannot spoil the SPIRITEDNESS of God preasent in paradise and hell.

So, there's what to worry about, for the one who is always in SPIRIT/JOLLINESS ? Man!

Tania's picture

This is nice but it is just

This is nice but it is just a theory, a hypothesis, an idea with no validation or supporting arguments whatsoever. It is as valid as any other ferry tale, it is as valid as the same story after replacing all occurrences of the word God with the word Devil.

Being so how can one rely on that and stop worrying?

The way out of worry is not to blindly rely on some arbitrary tale but to accept whatever happens, good and bad, to surrender to reality. Only then the magic happens and you find yourself aligned with whatever is, good and bad. There might be great pain, great distress, great bad signs but you find yourself beyond it and no consequent suffering or worrying occurs.

Tania | Tue, 05/28/2013 - 15:33
jasdir singh jaura's picture

You are getting something wrong, Tania.

Somebody asked; If God is omnipreasent, than surely he's preasent in hell too. And if God cannot escape from hell, than how can we ?

Thus, all i wrote is the answer to that question, visualizing how God remains in equal state of affair in paradise and hell.

jasdir singh jaura | Wed, 05/29/2013 - 06:10
Tania's picture

God by its very essence is beyond heaven and hell

God by its very essence and definition is beyond concepts and forms and those include heaven and hell.

Thus, one should not rely on God when it comes to worries and suffering. These are indeed bad things but they are bad from the perspective of the individual. From the perspective of the ultimate they have no significance whatsoever and if one needs an evidence to that he just has to look around and throughout history. If one relies on God and think that it is something in the relative realm that will take care of him personally than by all means he needs to be very worried.

We cannot escape from not escaping from pain and worries. The only workable and effective solution for that is surrender and total acceptance of the suffering and worries and only then an unexpacted magic happens: there is suffering and there are worries but you are in a state of mind that you do not care, they do not affect you, they do not generate suffering. It is maybe the most important experiential truth on the path, it is maybe the most remarkable magic on the path. And it is so easy to enter that state of surrender.

Tania | Wed, 05/29/2013 - 09:35
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From where ?

God by its very essence and definition is beyond concepts and forms and those include heaven and hell.

Than from where you came to know all this ? Tania.

jasdir singh jaura | Wed, 05/29/2013 - 12:42
Tania's picture

This is no knowledge, God is

This is no knowledge, God is a concept which its unique definition is omnipotent, omniscience, omnipresent.

Tania | Thu, 05/30/2013 - 07:25
jasdir singh jaura's picture

Yes, Omnipotent, Omniscience & omnipresent.

Yes, Omnipotent, Omniscience & omnipresent.

But this is only TRUE for the one who seen "Him" like this, or in this way.

Have you really seen "Him" this way, or still trying to see "Him" this way ? Tania, tell me..

jasdir singh jaura | Fri, 05/31/2013 - 08:25
Tania's picture

No, it has nothing to do

No, it has nothing to do with personal seeing. If something (let's call it X) is not omnipotent or not omniscience or not omnipresent than that which is omnipotent and omniscience and omnipresent (let's call it Y) is superior to it, in other words, Y is more potent or knows more or includes it, and hence X cannot be God.

Tania | Fri, 05/31/2013 - 15:08
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Than what is the difference between the person who can see, and the one who cannot ?

jasdir singh jaura | Sun, 06/02/2013 - 05:55