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hello everybody,it is akhil kaushik,tell me what is the best and short way for enlightenment according to you now?cause it keeps changing accordirng the time.



Luz76's picture

Hi akhil,you ask about

Hi akhil,

you ask about enlightenment but put as a subject one of the things that are most contradoctory to enlightenment - sidhis. Actually most known gurus (e.g. Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta Maharaj and others) explicitly warned against aishis as one of the main obstacles towards enlightenment.

Now for your question: the short way to enlightenment is to go within. It may take hundreds of years and may take a few second but it is still the shortest.

Though there is even a shorter way than the shortest above, some sort of a shortcut, but it is more difficult like climbing the mountain instead of going around the mountain in the valley: this way is to give up the wish to be enlightened, truly give up the desire to be enlightened. I told you it is more difficult. Some say that in truth, it is the only way.

Luz76 | Tue, 05/22/2012 - 15:03
bonya basu's picture

Clear the garbage...see the light.....

Enlightenment is not a target point...it is your true nature.There is no short cut...you love the way you choose for purification of your mind.
Clear the garbage filled in.

bonya basu | Tue, 05/22/2012 - 16:29
akhil kaushik's picture

answring

hi deari need to know one thing that is it your own experience or you have taken this knowlege from someone else or read in a book?

akhil kaushik | Wed, 05/23/2012 - 11:43
bonya basu's picture

Experience is the only confirmation of any knowledge,,,,,,

Yes Kaushik knowledge has been taken from someone but it accept my mind too...and constantly revealing through practice.

bonya basu | Wed, 05/23/2012 - 17:53
Quantum's picture

"...it keeps changing..."

You are so right about that. Haha...

I have read much and tried and re tried much, and what seems interesting is that even reading the same things over and over and stated in various ways by different writers, it all still goes completely over my head, until I discover on my own through experience (i.e. "on the job training") what I have been reading.

I'm sure this will all change tomorrow, but as of this writing this is my understanding, based on what I have been experiencing, of the things I have been reading about:

Oh, gosh, how to put it succintly... I don't know. Permit me to ramble on and on, in endless circles, like an enlightened guru.

Here we go:
"As within, so without. As above, so below"
-The Kybalian
-The Magician, "Tarot"

There is a peace that is always there, and has no opposites. It is not of the mind. And it is not of the ego. But it becomes obscured by thoughts.

1) I discovered that when my mind is still, I feel at peace. In additions, I also feel emotionally good on an egoic, duality based, level.

2) I noticed that when my mind is active with thoughts that cause pleasing emotions, I feel good on an emotional, egoic, duality based, level. Whether or not I still retain a sense of that peace I mentioned in # 1 above, I do not know, because I am so busy feeling emotionally good on an egoic level, I am so caught up and lost in that egoic positive emotion, that I am not consciously aware of any deeper sense of abiding, true, Peace.

3) I noticed (and this is unfortunately where I reside most of the time) that when my mind is busy and active with unpleasant thoughts that cause me problems, which in turn cause negative emotions, I feel downright miserable. I do not feel emotionally good on an egoic level. And I certainly also do not have access to that sense of abiding, ever present, Peace. That Peace mentioned in # 1 above is obscured by thoughts--negative thoughts specially, and even worse, it is obscured by strong negative emotions.

What to do? This answers your question.

When # 3 happens, quiet your mind, be still. How? One way is to focus on your breathing. Focusing the noisy mind on some object that works best for me (breathing, for me), quiets it enough so that # 1 above can happen.

In summary: I found that the sense of Peace I mentioned in # 1 above is actually a result of a preliminary step. I use focusing on the breath as a preliminary step, which diminishes the mind activity that obscures the sense of this Peace.

Your Gita says:

"Still your mind in me, still your self in me, without a doubt, you will be united with me."

My bible says:
"Be still and know that I Am [God]"

Cool, eh?

PS: I can add more details, but too much talk and explanation gets in the way of true understanding. So, if I were to be formally trained in a meditation class, I would choose zen. They tell you to "just sit", and they seem to ignore anything you tell them.

Quantum | Thu, 05/24/2012 - 17:30
Quantum's picture

Part II, The Stored, Suppressed, Negative Emotions, Baggage.

Unfortunately, I discovered, that there is a part 2 to this.
There are negative emotions stored up in the subconscious that accumulated over the years (sort of like cookies, and viruses, etc) because they were repressed, or avoided, and not allowed to process. I call them baggage, and issues, and basically, garbage in the basement of the mind. Overtime they start to stink. And well, they really stink and affect your thoughts, actions, decisions, and crazily, they cause negative emotions too, like some nasty vicious feedback loop. I think you call them "Samskaras"? Not sure.

Vipassana helps process, deal with, them.

Otherwise, that, felt, sense of, abiding Peace mentioned in # 1 above is temporary, and occasional only.

Quantum | Thu, 05/24/2012 - 17:51
bonya basu's picture

Samaskara......

"Samaskara" defines inherited habits...which is not your true Nature.With regular meditation you are able to get rid of your deflection of mind by stilling it.

"An untroubled mind,
No longer seeking to consider
What is right and what is wrong,
A mind beyond judgments,
Watches and understands"
— Budhha

bonya basu | Thu, 05/24/2012 - 18:48
jasdir singh jaura's picture

The best, sure, and short.

The best, sure and short way towards enlightenment is that just keep on searching it continuesly with all your efforts without any break, its naturel and easy too, There is no limit of time, but definatly the time will come when you will reach your destination.

Best f luck..

_/\_Jasdir

jasdir singh jaura | Fri, 05/25/2012 - 06:23
akhil kaushik's picture

answring

hi dear,ya thats true,thats y i am keep on searching it,i have made 5 gurus all r respectable,i love them fpllow there teachings,performing many sadhnas,quite satisfyinyg with my bhatkav.

akhil kaushik | Fri, 05/25/2012 - 14:03
jasdir singh jaura's picture

In this world..

In this world everybody or even me is quite satisfied with their bhaktav, its a great illusion,But who knows the truth ? its only god himself.

So we should never think ourself as compleate before enlightenment.

jasdir singh jaura | Sat, 05/26/2012 - 10:09