Sadhanas for awakening

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Different kind of sadhanas, whether it be Pranayama, Meditation, Awakening of Kundalini etc. etc. are in the field of Prakriti or Maya (Matter). Physical, Subtle and even Causal body are nothing but modification of Prakriti (Matter). You are the Purusha (Call it by any name Pure Awareness, Brahman etc.) You will not become anything else by all these kind of sadhanas. Remove the ignorance which is veiling your true state. Do not become, Just BE.



anderlaus's picture

Really?

So sadhanas may be in "maya" or not in "maya", so what? You eating and writing here is also in "maya" and strange enough you do not apply the same rules on them. Who said "maya" is the illusion you attribute to it? The very attributing of the illusion is also in the illusion, is it negating the attributing of the illusion to "maya"? Who said maya is what you believe it is? Have you gone to other dimensions beyond maya to validate this? who said you will not become anything else by these sadhanas? Solid facts determine the opposite and I can testify about my own transformation as well as of hundreds I had close spiritual and friendship relations over the years. My old fox are just being, ever been just being and I don't see anything special or more bliss in their state and feelings. How do you know what aim others seek in spirituality so that they follow your advice? How many years have you practiced the great variety of sadhanas that you can testify the above? And I can continue on and on breaking your categorical yet baseless view.

Ignorance is reciting scriptures, thinking-based conclusions and secondhand ideas, and presenting them as facts while ignoring solid experiential facts or not even bothering to test them at all. Ignorance is misunderstanding concepts such as advaita. I strongly recommend you to read the famous essay by Timothy Conway at http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html. It will sort out what looks like a misinterpretation.

anderlaus | Thu, 09/24/2009 - 10:24
Phroggy's picture

Good article.

Good article. Thanks.

There's a level of awareness/understanding where what the blogger talks about is the boundary that needs to be faced. I'm not making a judgment as to whether or not the author is at that boundary, only that what he says is valid and true and some may be unnecessarily delaying by refusing to see the truth of it. For others, more meditations and practices are needed, and it's perfectly fine.

Phroggy | Fri, 09/25/2009 - 01:24
shond's picture

Timothy Conway

Yes, Timothy Conway is very profound and that classic article proved to pinpoint the typical errors in the foundations of neo advaita for many seekers (including me) who followed the problematic ideas of neo advaita and the so many neo advaitan quick teachers.

shond | Fri, 09/25/2009 - 14:48
madan_gautam's picture

Remove the ignorance which is veiling your true state. Do not be

Remove the ignorance which is veiling your true state. Do not become, Just BE.
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But how one can remove the veiling without going through any changes/ inner transformation?
The going through these changes are called sadhana,then let the any path to follow.
Yes you are THAT but you yourself are behind this veil and you yourself has to be through this veil but not through any discussion,any analysis,not by only thinking and not by any ordinary methods but through sadhana.
By your complete transformation till then you are you only not THAT.
No one can become Shiva only be reciting but by transformation only.
Without Sadhana we are only ores of gold not pure gold and sadhana is the process of purification by tapas of self and only then one can be Shiva
OM

madan_gautam | Thu, 09/24/2009 - 16:24
sonti's picture

A few corrections

It's not just being. The being that the sages are talkiing about is conscious being, it's presence, it's being in the here and now. Just being is not enough. This is a classical pseudo advaita misunderstanding.

The typical behavior of the mind is being in the past or the future, being carried out in the stream of consciousness, is daydreaming. In order to make the mind change its typical pattern of behavior a contra force is needed, a force of a different pattern of being in the now - for this the sadhanas, the techniques, the meditations are needed. When you first truly experience the explosion of being totally present, you understand that that being in the now is not that simplified being people tend to talk about.

sonti | Fri, 09/25/2009 - 07:10
Phroggy's picture

It IS just being. It's not

It IS just being. It's not more than Being. If your mind complicates it and believes it involves thinking and past and future, this is your misunderstanding of the simplicity of "just Be", not the fault of some teacher who didn't complicate it enough for you. What can a teacher tell you to keep you from complicating the absurd simplicity of 'Just Be'?

Sadanas, techniques, meditations, all to bring about the effortlessness of Being. You misunderstand the teaching, construct a solution to your misunderstanding, then project your misunderstanding onto others and blame the teacher, all so that you can claim an accomplishment, one that you can still only perform in your meditations...and you don't know why.

Phroggy | Sat, 09/26/2009 - 08:09
angel76's picture

Confusion of language

No, you misunderstand what being is. What is complicated in language is not necessarily complicated in reality and vice versa. It seems to you complicated because you got used to what is natural for the mind in terms of words. There is nothing complicated in this, it is the most natural thing: being is being present, you are aware that you are aware, you are present, your attention is on what is now, not in the future of the past, you are present and you are aware of you being present. It may seem confusing and complicated, yet in action it is not, it comes naturally after some adjustments to the old mind patterns. Don't be afraid of it and don't be afraid of things that are not coming natural and easy in the modus of language. I conclude from your response that you are relatively new to spirituality, things will sort out when you get exposed to more diverse teachings and when the mind and thinking will subside.

angel76 | Sat, 09/26/2009 - 08:47
Phroggy's picture

Please tell me you're

Please tell me you're joking, or that you responded to the wrong post.

Phroggy | Sat, 09/26/2009 - 18:08
Omkaradatta's picture

You's and me's

The "you's and me's" get sorta mixed up, don't they? :-p. Funny how that happens so blatantly from time to time.

http://www.omkaradatta.info

Omkaradatta | Sat, 09/26/2009 - 19:27
Phroggy's picture

I think I'm in denial at the

I think I'm in denial at the moment. (Hehe)I refuse to accept that he thinks he read what it looks like he thinks he read in my post. :x

Phroggy | Sat, 09/26/2009 - 22:14
Omkaradatta's picture

He could have replied...

He could have replied to the 'wrong' post, but if not... the fact that there's really no separate self/other (outside of delusion) is responsible. Where the delusion is very strong, "you's and me's" get reversed and there's a feeling that things are 'twisted', along with suffering, dukkha (unsatisfying angst). When it isn't there, one has no notion of separate selves at all. In any case, all pay the price for their own ignorance and lack of awareness.

http://www.omkaradatta.info

Omkaradatta | Sun, 09/27/2009 - 06:10
silencio's picture

Why mix between different paths

Why mix between different valid paths? One feels that the being way works best for him and the other feels that the meditation way works best for him, and the third feels that the praying way is best for him. Anyway, all paths are completely speculative and therefore it is all a game in which everybody chooses the path that seems to give him the least sorrow and maximum happiness for now. All the rest including realization, truth, purpose are stupidities of the mind as they are only concepts and are completely speculative.

So saying that being is enough is an acceptable opinion. But adding a decisive negation about other contradicting paths in "You will not become anything else by all these kind of sadhanas" is irresponsible and reckless.

The need to negate or oppose the other way as if there is only one, mine, should be used as a warning sign for oneself. One should inspect the reasons why he needs the negation of the other way in order to believe more in his own current view.

Anyway, it is always a matter of belief. Anyone pretending to own the truth is either a beginner, an idiot or religious.

silencio | Sat, 09/26/2009 - 07:08
avi's picture

Love

Prakriti, Purusha, Maya, changing, not changing, becoming, not becoming. Leave all these mind-based speculations and dive into the ocean of love, the only thing which may be certain. Feel this divinity in your heart. All else is a subsitute, even God.

avi | Sat, 09/26/2009 - 10:26