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Go wherever you like. Go to Kashmir, to Darjeeling, to Vienna or the Alps, you will not find any real rest.

The charming scenery may soothe the retina for a few seconds but raga (attraction), dvesha (aversion), jealousy, passion and greed are
everywhere. You will find the same earth, the same sky, the same air, the same water everywhere. You carry the same mind with you
everywhere. Imagination and change of place have deceived many people. Be contented. Live wherever you like - but discipline the
mind and the senses ceaselessly. Meditate on the inner self (antar atman) ceaselessly. Here you will find everlasting peace. The mind
will stop deceiving you now.

If you do not have sustained vairagya (dispassion), you will find no improvement or progress in spirituality. Vows, austerities, energy and meditation will leak out like water from a cracked pot.

You have spent eight hours in sleep and the rest in idle gossiping, telling lies, deceiving others, in selfish activities and in gaining
money. How do you expect any spiritual good?

How do you expect immortality if you do not spend even half an hour in the service of God, in singing His name and in divine contemplation? Is there pain or is there pleasure in this world? If there is pleasure, why do young educated men retire to the forests?

If there is pain, why do young men run after wealth, position and women?

Ah! Mysterious is maya (illusion). Mysterious is moha (delusion)! Try to understand the riddle of life and the riddle of the universe.
Acquire viveka (wisdom). Have satsang (holy company). Enquire into the nature of the atman.

Study the Yoga Vasishta and the Upanishads. Then you will have a comprehensive understanding of the problems of life. There is not one iota of happiness in this world.

Renounce this world. Renounce the desire for moksa (liberation). Renounce renunciation itself. Then you will become that.

-- Swami Sivananda Saraswathy

SriSriYogiBaba's picture

Renouncing Renunciation

Then.... renounce renouncing renunciation, then.....etc etc.

SriSriYogiBaba | Sun, 09/07/2008 - 20:06
Phroggy's picture

Renounce the renunciator


Phroggy | Sun, 09/07/2008 - 22:04
Omkaradatta's picture

Jah, right... ;-)

Like there's really a renunciator there in the first place... and if there was, like it could really renounce itself :-p.

Omkaradatta | Sun, 09/07/2008 - 23:51
Phroggy's picture

Who goes there?

Who is it who knows there is no renunciator? 'Something' other than the renunciator? Why can this not renounce the renunciator? Is the fact that it is known there is no renunciator proof that it can be renounced?

Phroggy | Mon, 09/08/2008 - 04:06
Omkaradatta's picture

Who is it...

"Who is it who knows there is no renunciator?"

*sound of crickets chirping*

Omkaradatta | Mon, 09/08/2008 - 04:57
Phroggy's picture


Damn crickets!..................Why can't I get any peace and quiet? :)~

Phroggy | Mon, 09/08/2008 - 17:48
slenten's picture

Sivananda's messages were crafted to serve as many as possible.

A jewel from Sivananda! It's a wonderful distillation of his writing in which Shankara's wisdom resonates. Thanks for posting it, ammassridhar.

Boys, let's take a good look at the last statement that aroused your derisive comments.

"Renounce this world. Renounce the desire for moksa (liberation). Renounce renunciation itself. Then you will become that."

Now, the Chorus seemed to imply that Sivananda's view is untenable because, ultimately, there is no one to renounce, nothing to renounce, etc. But look at what he's done, that last paragraph has summarized, into a perfect aphorism, the whole sermon, and if you follow it with an open mind, he leads you to the same refrain you were singing so well together, that nothing, and no one remains after careful and thorough enquiry into the nature of reality.

The directness of Neo-Vedanta is refreshing and has merit but can be powerfully augmented by traditional analysis.

Boys, the DLS has the intellectual firepower so yer barkin' up the wrong tree.

slenten | Sun, 01/25/2009 - 16:35
Omkaradatta's picture

True gurus don't craft...

True gurus/mystics don't craft, they speak as words come to them. It's just an aspect of being beyond the mind, that one doesn't make use of the mind in a calculating way. To do so would be to destroy the essence of the message, by bringing in a 'me' who is deciding choosing for his or her own ends, whether those ends apply to self or other.

P.S. I like his message above, I'm referring only to the title of your post. Also, I haven't seen much of a neo-vedanta crowd among Gurusfeet (most seem either to be traditionalists, or just hard-core meditators who feel anything but meditation is a mind trick).

Omkaradatta | Sun, 01/25/2009 - 21:27
Phroggy's picture


Yup, that was the point of the "derisive refrain". It included what in some cultural traditions is referred to as 'humor'. (A Google search may clarify the cultural reference)

When we become overly attached to gurus and words, it seems resistance becomes inevitable.

DLS?....Department of Land Surveyors?.....Devoted Llama Stalkers?

Phroggy | Sun, 01/25/2009 - 21:33