A Realized mind or Jnani

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A mind of perfection is one which has mastered the art of viewing the worldview on the base of the true self, which is non dual Ataman or spirit, which lies beyond the experience of duality. It has delved into and realized the sense of infinitude when it transcended consciously all its identification physical equipment, within the experience of duality. The mind which has realized its own universal non dual nature is termed realized mind or Jnani.

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But how to reach that state of mind?

Dear Santthosh,

Well said but the real question is how to reach this state of the mind. Without the HOW all this remains as yet just another religious text.

So how to make the mind be there? intellectual inquiry clearly cannot do the job, it will be yet just another mind bla bla, so maybe meditation? what exact type of meditation?


salim | Thu, 07/10/2008 - 17:37
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Meditation or.....?

It definitely is an assist to have non-dual awareness come upon one uninvited at least one time. Actually, it would always be "uninvited" as it is the knowing that there was not really anyone to have invited - but only it arises uncolored into consciousness. To actively invite non-dual awareness often leaves the question "is this the real deal?" But eventually it will be unmistakable. To have come uninvited is a bit of a surprise as just impersonal being and not an induced experience. However, yes, definitely certain kinds of meditation can bring this about and over time there is the assuredness that it is authentic. This is a completely non-doing kind of meditation and there are now quite a few sources of instruction on the internet. It would be best to get some instruction, but it definitely can be done with dedication and without a live guru present. Maybe it would be good to comment that even if this pure being/awareness is known through that which always arises, then it could possibly take some time to understand how to live life again. Of course the answer will be found to be that just an ordinary life is it, but "the mind" within consciousness needs a little helpful instruction it seems. At this point it can be helpful for some to ask "How is it that this moment and all moments are NOT non-dual?"

Oh yes, what kind?

One formal sitting that I know of is Zen shikantaza as a kind of classic non-doing that finds inaction (just sitting) and pure alert awareness. Many masters will attempt to dislodge knowing and doing so that the fog that endlessly arises in consciousness is dumb-struck and paralyzed with no opportunity to obscure this pure being that is always there – even if it is seen for just a moment or two. Osho was actually very good at describing this kind of meditation in may different ways other than just sitting. Sri Atmananda (Krishna Menon) and Sri Ranjit Maharaj both advised this way of meditation and a deep sense of it can be known through Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. The time just before sleep and just on awakening is a very advangtageous time to investigate and yet is difficult because the will has left or is going anyway.

vimutti | Thu, 07/10/2008 - 19:22
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meditation or...?

hi vimuthi,
Duality and non duality are state of the mind. Thus, it is not something to be got fresh. Everyone unconsciously enters the non dual state of mind, and calls it as deep sleep. Because they are ignorant of the true self which is spirit.

Consciously entering to the non dual state of mind, in the midst of the experience of duality is wisdom. The spirit is the witness of the three states[waking,dream,deep-sleep], which appears and disappears in succession. The three states are illusory. It is necessary to know how they are illusory and on what base? in order to unfold the mystery of the mind.

Please go through my blogs, you will start realizing where the obstacles are. By constant reflecting on the subject through inquiry and reasoning will help the seeking mind to move towards the natural state.

Until the wisdom dawns, non duality is impossible.
It is no use of striving physically for, to get non duality through meditation or any other techniques. Because the physical identity is not the self.
With respect and regards
Take care, have a blissful time.

santthosh kumaar | Sat, 07/19/2008 - 04:17
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But how to reach the state of mind

hi salim,
Thank you for your response.

The base of your inquiry has to be rectified. Since most of the intellectual inquiry based on the physical self or 'I', it will not transport the seeking mind to the core.

It is not only inquiry but also analysis and and reasoning on the true base is very much necessary.
First one has to realize the fact that it is the mind, that is operating as man and perceives the world as a person. Therefore man cannot take the authorship of the experience, when man is fully dependent on the mind for existence. Thus mind has to be trained to view and judge the worldview on the base of the true self, which is the spirit to reach the natural state of the mind.

Since the subject is vast and it takes time for mind to be receptive to accept a new thing. It is difficult to explain the whole thing in few words. Therefore I request you, go through all my blogs and analize. You will start realizing what I am saying. I am posting the blogs to help the fellow seekers, if you need more light on this subject then you have to attend the F.S retreats.
Take care
With respect and regards

santthosh kumaar | Sat, 07/19/2008 - 02:34