the real Guru

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the real Guru

since all is SELF, alias Guru
anything can be the Guru
even rocks and things, even mountains, like Arunachala

and since the Self, Guru, has no dualities
it can even appear as an apparently bad individual
which includes even murderers and perverts.

By definition: a real Guru NEVER claims to be a real.
There is a very simply reason for this -- the real Guru is projected from the Inside to outside -- the outside is thus a hallucination – if this hallucination is to claim “I'm real” it would be not only one lie but three: Not only am I real, and not only am I a guru but I'm the real guru.

These three-lies make: ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE a/the real guru is an IMPOSTOR,

Indeed – most gurus, like Mountains, don't even know they are gurus
because they don't even know what a guru is,
especially when it is simultaneously both inside and outside.

a real Guru cannot be found,
it unexpectedly appears for the seeker.

that many a seeker needs a long
and often futile explanation
to explain why
the last person, thing or even pervert or Mountain
they would ever imagine
was their Guru.

-- O'no

dhorai's picture

thats why to me always jesus seem correct!

u have to update urself by being a guru and move on to keep urself free....

some gurus never speak for years.....

so any one who helps u he is ur neighbour (good).

with love

dhorai | Tue, 08/04/2009 - 19:14
kain's picture

My Beloved Holy &nd Beautiful Satguru said 45 year ago :

He said :
Do not go advertising, . . doing My Work

And if they insist , wait until the seeker asks 3 times.

And then speak up to the point
and wait for a new question .. . . . .


ankhaton on youtube &

( so happy I asked 5 times at that time )

kain | Tue, 09/29/2009 - 07:44
suzi's picture

I like this

I like the attitude of your guru. There are so many gurus and wannabe ones who want to suckle more than the calves want to suck. This is a very good sign. There are similar stories about zen masters and about the master of Irena Twidi.

Who is your guru if I may ask?

I suggest you put this tale in

suzi | Tue, 09/29/2009 - 17:56
rvin6's picture


In my perception, it is very, very important. The greatest danger on the spiritual path is self-deception. The student can deceive or hypnotise himself into believing anything. I have heard people talking about ‘the oneness of all things’ after reading just one book. They start to believe that they know! It is so hard to tell them that spirituality starts where words end. Spirituality is not about intellectual but energetic transformation.
A lot of patience, persistence and grace are required. Even ‘senior’ meditators can fall into this trap of false knowing. They are so eager to finish their journey quickly and become gurus that they fool themselves. That is why a guide or a guru is so important. Only a being who is more evolved can see where the lesser evolved being is stuck. You need the presence of a person who can see more than you, further than you, more clearly than you. Unfortunately, even though the master sees and shares, it is not certain that his message will be received. The master’s work is subtle and complex. But what makes his impossible work possible is that he is not doing anything! He is no longer the ‘doer’. He is simply a ‘catalytic agent’ in whose presence miraculous and mysterious events just happen.
The guru alone cannot do anything. It is the disciple’s thirst, his passion for truth, his dogged determination, and above all his trust in his master that makes the magic happen. All said and done, if you are lucky enough to find a living master, stick with him! It seems it is far better if the disciple maintains some distance between himself and the master.
That definitely has its advantages. When you see the master from a distance, sitting on a podium and giving a talk, the relationship between a master and disciple remains clear. The disciple finds it easier to retain his sense of love and respect. The other way is far more dangerous, almost like walking on a tightrope at all times. The journey gets far more intense, but probably faster as well. When the master offers his physical proximity to you, at some level he has seen you worthy of the challenge. Spending so much time in the presence of the master is a huge blessing. It is like ‘spiritual sunbathing’ - it is an invisible and mysterious process of energy transmission that has the capacity to transform your life. This is because his presence is a powerful healing force, a continuous wake-up call.
Here again, the disciple has to be careful. It is quite easy to fall ‘asleep’, and start taking things for granted. The disciple, instead of feeling grateful, starts feeling special and superior, and his ego becomes bigger than Mt Everest!
At that time, you can be sure that an existential ‘kick’ is on its way. It is nature’s way of bringing you back to reality, showing you your true place.

So when you get a chance to be physically close to a master, be thankful. Make sure you thank God and the guru for giving you the chance. And pray for the wisdom and the humility to remain worthy of this divine relationship. For at the end of your life, this is probably the one relationship that will have made all the difference.

My guru His Divine Grace YOGA JNANA SITTHAR OM SRI RAJAYOGA GURU.The Guru's name is Yoga Jnana Sitthar Om Sri Rajayoga Guru Saranam. His Divine Grace is the most powerful sitthar on earth right now who is helping common people like us by initiating/ empowering us. "sitthars" are extremely powerful and enlightened beings who normally would not associate themselves with common people like us. They would be living in forests, mountains etc and meditating there.

Sitthars are capable of doing absolutely anything. These beings are able to transform themselves into a mountain/ change into an atom/ materialise things from thin air/ walk on water etc - anything at all! There are many enlightened beings like this at this moment, but only this being right now has chosen to come down and help commoners. In the olden times, commoners who would like to be empowered/ initiated by an enlightened being would have to separate themselves from their family members, and go to the jungles, to live there. They would be staying there serving the Guru that they had chosen, washing the Guru's clothes and doing other services for the Guru. However, at the end of the period of time (which is normally 12 years), it's up to the Guru whether he/she would want to empower that particular person with a particular technique, say the divine shield technique etc. In other words, a commoner who goes to the forests to serve the Guru after a period of 12 years MIGHT be blessed with a divine shield if the Guru is pleased with the disciple's work. Also, the disciples are mostly blessed with A particular technique, and not a bunch of them that i've stated. So, the 12 years is cut down to a one-day course now. Amazing, huh? It's truly a blessing if you ask me. I've been a disciple of His Divine Grace since june 2001, and have been seeing miracles happening before my eyes.

To become a disciple of His Divine Grace, one must attend a programme where he/she would be taught the techniques that i've mentioned earlier. There are no restrictions to take this programme whatsoever, that is, one need NOT become a vegetarian/ quit smoking/ drinking etc if one takes this programme. One would be initiated by His Divine Grace, and would be free to do as he/she pleases. If one practices the techniques taught, one would see miracles happening. This programme would benefit anyone in both, their spiritual AS WELL AS their material life.

Taking the divine shield technique as an example, can you imagine having a divine shield around you 24/7?? meaning you'd be protected from all kinds of dangers - black magic, murders, voodoo, accidents and so on. As one practices the divine shield technique, the shield gets bigger and stronger over time. This sheild will also protect you from all the SPIRITUAL obstacles.

Kind regards,
S Arvinthan

rvin6 | Sun, 07/17/2011 - 05:51
samsara's picture

To cut the story short -

To cut the story short - what you had in mind in your above text is to promote your guru, not to really address the question what a real guru is.

So why such a long story?

samsara | Sun, 07/17/2011 - 12:24