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The human incarnation is never accepted in past, present and future because the egoism and jealousy of the human beings are never crucified. When God is fully revealed in the human incarnation, people reject Him due to egoism and jealousy. If God is hidden in the human incarnation, then also they will reject by treating Him as an ordinary human being with negligence. Therefore, the human incarnation should neither express God fully nor should hide the God completely. He should express the God to that extent only, which can remove the negligence but should hide God to that extent, which cannot raise the egoism and jealousy.

The behavior of the human incarnation is thus a balance point of the mixture. The human incarnation itself is a balanced mixture of the unimaginable God and physically perceivable human body. The unimaginability or inexplicability of the God, called as Brahman or Jehovah or Allah, which is expressed through the silence of Buddha. Buddha kept silent about God to indicate that God is beyond the words and imagination. Some followers immediately misunderstood Buddha as an atheist and the most pitiable point is that He Himself is one of the ten incarnations of the Lord.

You can neither reach God directly due to His unimaginable nature, nor recognize Him when He comes to you in human form due to negligence. The final result is only total loss in any case. I pity this unfortunate humanity in this ultimate spiritual point. This makes the souls to rotate in the cycle of creation continuously for the entertainment of the Lord forever and perhaps that is the intrinsic wish of the Lord!

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Unanswered question yet

Maharshi Dayananda, Founder of Aaryaa Samaaja, was the true apostle of interpretation of Vedas who asked a question from the Sanskrit scholars and other philosophers of religions during a (shaastraarth) debate held at Kashi, Varanasi approximately 150-140 years ago and that question has still not been answered.

He asked, " If there is murti worship in Vedas then that may be revealed to me; and if there is no such worship of human form then it may be declared that there is form worship in Vedas." But scholars could not proof human worship before the revered Maharshi and after a continue debate of some specific period Judge appointed by the King of Kashi declared that nobody could answer the question of Maharshi; so in view of it Maharshi Dayananda won the debate.

From Vedas Maharshi gave a quote that is, " NAASTI TASYA PRATIMAASTI." Its mean is that God has no form. In Vedas there is no theory of avtaarvaad; neither it is in bible nor in Koran. Also, Islam and Christianity do not accept the theory of reincarnation, as known to.

NIDHI PARKASH | Sun, 06/06/2010 - 18:15
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4 great sentences about Human Incarnation

Your arguments are not correct. It is due to your limited knowldge in Veda that you have come to such false conclusions.

God comes in human form there is reference in Bible, Gita and Veda.
4 great sentences about Human Incarnation

The Veda has four great sentences (four dicta) called as the Maha Vakyas about the human incarnation:

1) Aham Brahmaasmi
2) Tatvamasi
3) Ayam Atmaa and
4) Prajnanam Brahma.

The first three sentences say that externally, He is like me, you, and him respectively. The fourth great sentence says that He preaches a special divine knowledge, which is not possible for anyone else, and this knowledge is His internal form by which He is differentiated from others.
Many electrons are flowing in the atmosphere. Flow of electrons is called as electricity. But you cannot experience electricity in the atmosphere.

By this electricity in the atmosphere you cannot move the fan or the lamp. This electricity cannot be experienced and you cannot get any benefit from it. But the same electrons, when made to flow in a metallic wire, you are able to get the experience of the electricity by touching the wire. By this electricity you can move the fan and light the lamp. Similarly you cannot directly experience God who is pervading all over the world and you cannot get any fruit from Him.

But when the same God enters the human body, you can experience Him through vision, touch, conversation and live in His association. But even by this experience you cannot get any fruit. When you meet somebody, touch him, talk with him and even live with him, you can experience him, but you cannot necessarily get any help from him.

Even if you serve God in His human form personally, He may preach to you several times but only when you participate in His mission as a servant, will He be completely pleased and give you the fruit. Therefore you can experience and please God, only through the human form. God creates this method of approaching Him, for the sake of human beings. This method is called the human incarnation. If you try to reach the Absolute God directly, He is like a roaring mighty ocean. You are just a water drop. Your prayer is an iota in that ocean of sound. You may even merge in the sea and disappear completely loosing your name and form.

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dattaswami2 | Mon, 06/07/2010 - 02:18
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beyond human limitation

1. Your arguments are not correct.
>>From the point of view of religion of Vedas statement is accurate that is there is no reincarnation of 'PAARBRAHM PARAMESHWAR"; hence upon it, it is stated that there is not any Avtaar of PARAMAAATMAA HAVE BEEN HAPPENED IN THIS UNIVERSE still the day of today ---- REF. TO verse of Veda----- "NAASTI TASYA PRATIMAA ASTI". If you have courage, you can yourself minutely study the records of shaastraarth of maharshi Dayananda on this topic available in libraries of Vedic wisdom controlled by Aaryaa Samasaj. You may also get these from Aarsh Literature.

2. It is due to your limited knowldge in Veda that you have come to such false conclusions.
>>Yes, my knowledge is very, very limited due to which which I have been enjoying the others blogs, forums, comments on this site.

3. God comes in human form there is reference in Bible, Gita and Veda.
>> As the Inner Most of souls God exists in all creatures: He neither comes,nor goes but exists. What's comes and goes that is the soul. soul when in bound state may bear bodies and at the time of death releases bodies. 'Bound' is due to Karma under the administration of Mahamaya.
Ones who come in human forms are not Paarbrahm-Parameshwar(becauseHe is already sarvaantaryaami, eternally existing) but the souls of human beings in the form of humans.
Foe this question of yours you have to give quotatrions from Vedas only because of highest authority is Vedas and in Gita may be some Vikshipt material incorporated by the mythologists. Because Maharshi Dayananda had rejected the whole mythological literature as 'khandit'(false).
Gita is nothing except timely dialogue between Krishna and Arjuna at the beginning of Mahaabhaarata war(happened more than 5000 years ago) and the knowledge through which Krishna convinced Arjuna to follow swa-dharma. At the time war There was no need to Krishna to recite a poetry of 7oo verses, nor time was available to
Krishna for such recitation at the time of war; Hence the dialogue was happened in prose and total sentences spoken by the both were only 27. After the speaking of these 27 sentences war took place which remained continue for 18 days. This is totally new thing to you and many others about Gita and this came to my knowledge when listening researches conducted on Gita in the year of 1988. I felt at that time it is greatest truth regarding Gita which I Had Listened from research scholar. But I have no any objection if you speak it is not true.

4. 4 great sentences about Human Incarnation
The Veda has four great sentences (four dicta) called as the Maha Vakyas about the human incarnation:

1) Aham Brahmaasmi
2) Tatvamasi
3) Ayam Atmaa and
4) Prajnanam Brahma.
The first three sentences say that externally, He is like me, you, and him respectively. The fourth great sentence says that He preaches a special divine knowledge, which is not possible for anyone else, and this knowledge is His internal form by which He is differentiated from others.
Many electrons are flowing in the atmosphere. Flow of electrons is called as electricity. But you cannot experience electricity in the atmosphere.
>>Alongwith these 4 SENTENCES, there must be one more sentence that is as ------- " BRAHMWID BRAHMAIV BHAVATI"---------- . After brooding on this sentence It is the revelation of sef-realization ref. to one story of two birds in Upanishad to which you know very well; how the lower bird after reaching higher bird, realized that he himself is the higher bird and on this pattern all the four other sentences are also the expressions of the state of self-realization; hence, these are not the proof of 'AVATAARAVAADA'. Understand these five from the point of view of Vedic religion according to Paanini Grammar on the pattern of Aarsh but not on the pattern of anaarsh.
Hidden unshapely electricity comes into work when it wired. Unshaped carbon and proteins etc. becomes the material of the bodies who take births as being exemplified electricity; so no it is the role God but it is role our karmas through which scattered electricity is intensified for the use through lamps and fans etc.

6. By this electricity in the atmosphere you cannot move the fan or the lamp. This electricity cannot be experienced and you cannot get any benefit from it. But the same electrons, when made to flow in a metallic wire, you are able to get the experience of the electricity by touching the wire. By this electricity you can move the fan and light the lamp. Similarly you cannot directly experience God who is pervading all over the world and you cannot get any fruit from Him.
>>Electricity is energy to which we use at our will according to the principles of science and this scientific object cannot come into the feeling of ordinary users when it is in the form of minute and inertia but it is even in this condition also well known to scientists & electricians just as driver knows the car how to drive and driven by him but machinery of car is well understood by the engineer and mechanics only and not by the driver.
But it is not applicable to God which is all pervading and can be known to and His knowing is the greatest fruit. After knowing God the all pervading; we get the fruit of our absolute existence which is also one of the greatest fruit. After knowing the All pervading God; we get absolute Bliss which is direct the greatest experience and also the supreme fruit of knowing the All pervading God.

7. But when the same God enters the human body, you can experience Him through vision, touch, conversation and live in His association. But even by this experience you cannot get any fruit. When you meet somebody, touch him, talk with him and even live with him, you can experience him, but you cannot necessarily get any help from him.
>>Who is Eternal, an unlimited cannot be brought to the platform of limitation through the assumptions of His entering into the bodies because the Eternal, All pervading 'PAARBRAHM PARAMESHWAR' TAKES NO incarnation/reincarnations but these are taken by the 'AAPTPURUSHAS' as per the Vedas.

8. Even if you serve God in His human form personally, He may preach to you several times but only when you participate in His mission as a servant, will He be completely pleased and give you the fruit. Therefore you can experience and please God, only through the human form. God creates this method of approaching Him, for the sake of human beings. This method is called the human incarnation. If you try to reach the Absolute God directly, He is like a roaring mighty ocean. You are just a water drop. Your prayer is an iota in that ocean of sound. You may even merge in the sea and disappear completely loosing your name and form.
>> We serve people and other creatures with the view to serve God because it is spoken God is residing in all. We serve others from the point of view to please God the Almighty; which is designated as His Mission. Trough this we enjoy as fruits sharing others' happiness. This is the bearing of bodies by the Aaptpurshas/liberated souls with the command from God but not it being the direct birth of God because He is forever unborn. Our prayer with accurate frequencies of divinity must be from the core of heart if we desire that our prayer ought to be listened by God. Our name and form state is impermanent only to merge to its elemental state but the existence of souls forever remain even after merging to God According to pluralists theory of Vedic religion as per Maharshi Dayananda.

9.At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami
>> At Thy Lotus Feet Her Holiness Mother the Kundalini

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NIDHI PARKASH | Tue, 06/08/2010 - 15:42
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God has to come in human form in every generation

There are certain good and learned souls, which are interested in the spiritual path to gain the grace of the God. But the spiritual path is in confusion since several human beings interpret the scripture of God in different ways. Only God has to give the correct version of His own scripture. God has to come in human form in every generation because as soon as God exits, selfish people misinterpret His message constantly. The misinterpretation satisfies the majority of the people, which is incapable of practicing in the right path. For example God decides that 70% is the distinction. When God exits, the majority of the students, which is incapable of getting the distinction like to bring down the percentage so that they can also have the satisfaction of the distinction.

A student who gets 7% wants to have distinction. Now the misinterpretation is given like this. In the number 70 there are two numbers. One is 7 and the other is 0. Since 0 has no value, 70 must mean 7. Therefore, the student getting 7% can get distinction. Such misinterpretation by a mischievous teacher is admired by a large majority of students. Now he is the greatest teacher with large majority of followers! This is the present situation of false preachers misleading the vast majority. The distinction can be neither given by the teacher nor by the students. The board of interview selecting the students of distinction for service has the acknowledge of the distinction for which only there is real fruit.

Hence, God gives the divine fruit only to the real distinction since He is well aware of the marks of distinction, which were prescribed by Him only. Therefore, God had to come again and again and also everywhere simultaneously (especially when there was no electronic communications in the world) to establish the correct interpretation in the entire world. This correct interpretation attracts only the merit students and the majority consisting of incapable students will reject this. God is also not bothered about such majority because even if the truth is established to them, there will be no use in the case of such students. Krishna never preached spiritual knowledge to many people in His life. In His entire life, He chose only one occasion to preach Gita to just Arjuna only.

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dattaswami2 | Tue, 06/08/2010 - 16:12
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God is to manifest through..........

1. There are certain good and learned souls, which are interested in the spiritual path to gain the grace of the God. But the spiritual path is in confusion since several human beings interpret the scripture of God in different ways. Only God has to give the correct version of His own scripture. God has to come in human form in every generation because as soon as God exits, selfish people misinterpret His message constantly. The misinterpretation satisfies the majority of the people, which is incapable of practicing in the right path. For example God decides that 70% is the distinction. When God exits, the majority of the students, which is incapable of getting the distinction like to bring down the percentage so that they can also have the satisfaction of the distinction.
>>Bliss of God is showered on some genuine and deserving souls who are called as messengers, reincarnation of God(which is wrong inn reality), Siddhas, etc. and all these are designated as Gods because of the mythology of many religions and Hinduism is totally filled up with this myth, even it have been in contrast to Vedic religion; however, it could not be fully captured by the so said learned scholarly people. Jesus Christ and Mohammad are among this category of Messengers while Jesus is designated also God. Islam has not given its status to any; hence, Allah cannot to take Avatar and this point reconcile with the Vedas as far as non-reincarnation is concerned and upto some extent the same is available in Christianity also. Jesus called the Son of God to whom was sent by God for the special mission of forgiving. In Koran very, very vividly available that Mohammad was messenger of Almighty Allah who was also assigned with the particular mission/message for for the deliverance for the people and they completed their missions. After the completion of missions they went again to the kingdom of God spoken as from where they came they went to the same destination. Actually they all are Aaptpurushas neither the reincarnation of God Maharshi Dayananda has also spoken that Rama and Krishna were also Aaptpurushas nweither the Avatar of God.

2.A student who gets 7% wants to have distinction. Now the misinterpretation is given like this. In the number 70 there are two numbers. One is 7 and the other is 0. Since 0 has no value, 70 must mean 7. Therefore, the student getting 7% can get distinction. Such misinterpretation by a mischievous teacher is admired by a large majority of students. Now he is the greatest teacher with large majority of followers! This is the present situation of false preachers misleading the vast majority. The distinction can be neither given by the teacher nor by the students. The board of interview selecting the students of distinction for service has the acknowledge of the distinction for which only there is real fruit.
>>Modern kids are far sighted in wisdom; hence neither they nor their teachers can believe in the distinction of 7% because some of the selected students of this day get marks upto 100%. Further this has no valuation as far as the question of Avatar of God concerned as per Vedas.

3. Hence, God gives the divine fruit only to the real distinction since He is well aware of the marks of distinction, which were prescribed by Him only. Therefore, God had to come again and again and also everywhere simultaneously (especially when there was no electronic communications in the world) to establish the correct interpretation in the entire world. This correct interpretation attracts only the merit students and the majority consisting of incapable students will reject this. God is also not bothered about such majority because even if the truth is established to them, there will be no use in the case of such students. Krishna never preached spiritual knowledge to many people in His life. In His entire life, He chose only one occasion to preach Gita to just Arjuna only.
>> These are our Karmas which fructifies at the appropriate occasions.
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NIDHI PARKASH | Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:13
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The actual God is not seen

The actual God is not seen by the eye since God is not imaginable even to the mind, intelligence or logic as per several Vedic statements. The Veda says that the eye cannot see God. But the same Veda says that a blessed soul can see God. This contradiction is easily removed by taking original God for the first statement and mediated God in human form for the second statement. God is not pervading all over the creation because the Veda says that God created the universe to see and enjoy it. If you pervade all over the cinema and become that cinema itself, you cannot see and enjoy it. The Veda says that nothing in the world is God (Neti Neti…).

The Veda also says that God entered the world after creating it. If God has already pervaded all over the universe, there is no meaning in saying that God entered the universe. When the Veda says that this entire world is God, Ramanuja interpreted it as the world being under the control of God. You call a kingdom by the name Kalinga, when it is under the control of King Kalinga.At Thy Lotus Feet His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

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dattaswami2 | Thu, 06/10/2010 - 02:04
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>>The actual God is not seen

God cannot be seen because He has no Form which should be object of eyes; Hence,it is stated in Vedas as 'NAASTI TASYA PRATIMAA ASTI'. Materialistic things/objects may be the object of eyes(may be seen by the eyes of animated entities).

God exists everywhere and have been the container of all and all is contained in Him as per Vedanta, accordingly the Two examples given from the Shankar commentary on Gita:

1. Nityah sarvagatah sthaanhurachaloayam sanaatanah.
God is Eternal, Omnipresent, Stationary, Unmoving, and Changeless......2-24(2).

Since this is so, therefore, It... It is Eternal. Being Eternal, It is Omnipresent. Being Omnipresent, It is Stationary,i.e. fixed absolutely with Its own Eternal Support. Being fixed, This Self is (Eternal) is Unmoving; therefore It is also changeless as well as Unchanged Eternally.

It is not produced from any Cause, as new thing; therefore, Rama of Ramayana and also Krishna of Mahabharata were not Avatars of That Eternal who is spoken hereby. This is from the depth of Vedanta; but I know the fact very well that it cannot be accepted by the general public of Hindus due to their deep rooted attachment to Sanatana Dharma mythology and its cultural background, however it is scholarly and true talk as per the stuff of Vedas advocated by Maharshi Dayananda.

It is not to be argued that 'these verses are repetitive since Eternality and changelessness of the Self have been stated in single verse itself, "NEVER IS THIS ONE BORN, AND NEVER DOES IT DIE," etc.(20). Whatever has been said there (in verse 19) about the Self does not go beyond the meaning of this verse. Something is repeated with those very words, and something ideologically.

2. Reference to verse 22 of chapter 8 in Gita, stated as: YASYAANTAH STHAANI BHOOTAANI YEN SARVAMIDAM TATAM. In whom are included (all) the beings and by whom all this is pervaded------is, indeed, reached through one-pointed devotion. It is translated by Yogi Mahajana in his Gita translation as----- "All creation resides in Him and He pervades all creation." (at page 126 in Gita Enlightened).
The Supreme Unsurpassable Divinity derived in the sense of 'RESIDING IN THE HEART' or All-Pervasiveness; that Divinity, compared to whom there is nothing superior---yasya--- in Whom, in Which Divine (person-Purusha); are included; (All) the beings which are Its products---for a product remains inherent in its cause; and yena, by whom, by which Divine (Person-Purusha) is Pervaded; sarvam, All; idam, this the Universe, as pot etc. are contained by space; are contained in space.

Victory to Mother Kundalini,the All Pervading Consciousness.

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NIDHI PARKASH | Sun, 06/13/2010 - 15:55
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The unimaginable absolute God

The existence of any item is experienced in two ways. In the first way the existence is realized by direct perception. You realize the pot existing on the floor by looking it with your eyes. This is direct knowledge. In the second way the existence realized by indirect inference. You are inferring the existence of fire on the hill by seeing the smoke generated from the fire and surrounding the fire. This is indirect knowledge.

In the case of unimaginable God, the existence of God is realized by indirect knowledge only. Observing the unimaginable events generated by God called as miracles, which mainly include the unimaginable knowledge, you are inferring the existence of unimaginable God in a specific human being. Veda says that only the existence of God is realized (Asteetyeea….). Such realization is also due to inference only as said in the second Brahma Sutra. The knowledge of existence does not give the knowledge of any characteristic of the item. Even this knowledge of existence is only through unimaginable event, which shows the existence of unimaginable God.

When you see the smoke coming from a far hill, you are inferring the existence of fire on it. Since you have seen the fire already, the word fire itself reveals all the known properties of fire. But in the case of unimaginable God, you have not seen God before and the inference gives only one property of God which is the unimaginable nature only. The word ‘unimaginable’ does not allow even a ray of imagination into it. Hence, God is totally unimaginable as recognized by the unimaginable works of God. Therefore, whenever you say that you have experienced God, it does not mean that you have known anything about God except the existence of God. Existence does not reveal any property of the item unless the item is already known. Thus, the inference also fails in the case of God because God is not known earlier like the fire inferred.

Therefore, it is very difficult to introduce the existence of unimaginable God directly under these circumstances. If such introduction is done, people will not believe it since God is unknown item from the beginning. This will easily mislead to nonexistence of God or atheism. To avoid this fundamental danger some medium should be selected to put the finger to show the existence of God.

The medium should be such that God should be entering it. If the medium is clearly seen by the eyes, then, such medium cannot give the eternal nature of God because any medium seen by eyes is not eternal. Keeping all this in mind, energy is selected as the best medium of God to introduce God. Energy is invisible to eyes and therefore we can say that God is also invisible to eyes. Energy is eternal compared to matter and therefore we can say that God is eternal. Energy generates, maintains and dissolves all the creation in to it. God also creates maintains and destroys the entire creation including the energy. Due to all this points, you should not conclude that energy itself is God. The defects that can be shown to deny the energy is God are 1) Energy is not absolute eternal since energy is created maintained and dissolved by God. 2) Energy is inert but God is aware of every thing and every body. 3) Energy is imaginable item through direct knowledge and its existence as well as properties can be realized by direct perception through powerful microscopes. Energy is a number of waves traveling in a medium or even in vacuum. The nature of God is never perceived and even the inference does not give His nature.

Moreover, in the beginning of this creation, even before the appearance of matter, energy existed, created by God and God entered into some energetic forms like Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Such mediated God is also called as father of heaven. Even though the energetic form is inert, due to the existence of omniscient God in it, such form becomes alive and gets awareness. Due to all these merits, the energetic form is always the best for introduction of God. Therefore, Shankara has taken this cosmic energy, a formless lot, as the medium of God. Therefore, He declared God as formless and all-pervading since these two properties belong to the cosmic energy. The formless lot of inert energy is charged by the omniscient God and therefore this inert energy becomes energy of awareness.

Taking all these inherent properties of the inert energy like eternality, all-pervading nature, ability to create, maintain and destroy the universe etc, along with the induced properties attained from the charged God like awareness, Shankara showed God as omniscient awareness having all the inherent properties of cosmic energy. You should not mistake this limited soul as God since it is neither all-pervading nor omniscient. All this exercise was done by Shankara to show the cosmic energy charged by God as the absolute God only to show God by putting the finger straight. The absolute God is unimaginable and if you introduce Him in the pure original status, no body can understand anything about Him and even His existence may be doubted. To avoid this danger mediated God can be only introduced and the best medium is cosmic energy. Cosmic energy is not God because it is inert. The soul is not God because it is limited and not omniscient. You have to eliminate every medium by the defects and finally conclude that the absolute God is unimaginable to any soul except Himself as said in Veda(Brahamavit Brahamaiva..). This means that knower of God is God is alone. Gita says that no body other than God knows God (Mamtuveda nakaschana…).

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dattaswami2 | Fri, 06/25/2010 - 02:37