Next Top Spiritual Author

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I want to be (America’s) Next Top Spiritual Author, and I need your help. I’m writing a book called, The Power of Awareness: A Guide Through the 6 Phases from Conception to Enlightenment and just uploaded a video that tells you all about it. In order to get to the next round I need a lot of votes.

But you know what? I’m not really that tied to winning. I simply just love the process of talking about my awakening and being a guide for you on your spiritual journey. So, if you vote for me or not, I hope when you watch the video it will inspire in you the desire to make your spiritual journey a fun adventure!

And if you really like this, or know of someone who might enjoy it, please forward on.

I encourage you to listen to all of the book pitches, and vote for the one that most resonates with you. Remember to listen to your inner guide.



superwoman's picture

Really?

You want to be the next top spiritual author? Really? WOW, and to land on the moon, you don't want? and what about to be president?

I have never heard such a stupid, pitiful, and may I say, even sick-minded deceleration especially in the spiritual context.

You are not spiritual. You are a sad product of the American New Age, something populist that has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever.

It is like Saddam Hussain saying he wants to be the next top author about liberalism and peace.

It is evident by your statement itself that you are not spiritual at all and moreover, that you are in a preliminary stage of a novice beginner.

The very fact that your objective is so childish and contra-spiritual prevents you from producing such a book.

superwoman | Tue, 04/20/2010 - 09:33
carlito santo's picture

Tell me that all this is a bad joke

You are not awakened, let alone spiritual in any way. If you were, you wouldn't be writing such a text or even something similar to it. You are just a typical greedy and ignorant American New Age impostor and you have no slightest tiny idea whatsoever about awareness, actually, maybe you have some sort of one specific type of awareness: awareness to money and ego.

Some call people like you "spiritual industrialists" to demonstrate the irony and paradox in your confused, selfish and deceptive motives but I think that in the text above you present even a bigger irony and ignorance.

If it wasn't for real, it was a good (or maybe bad) joke.

carlito santo | Tue, 04/20/2010 - 10:46
natha simha's picture

is this some kind of a joke?

its the best joke i've ever heard.

your writing a book about enlightenment and you want to become the next top model,oops, next top spiritual author.

hahahaaaaa.

natha simha | Tue, 04/20/2010 - 10:48
Asanga's picture

The great spiritual downslide starts with a desire to be famous

I thought votes were meant for elections...

One of the gates to one's spiritual downslide is a desire to be famous, to be respected and admired...

Are you the next Ben Johnson of 'spiritual writing'... Oho! I see you sprinting towards the tape! The cheers in the stadium are deafening! And what do I see? you are not alone!!!

Aah! Its a new Olympic Record!!! So sorry it has not been introduced yet! I truly wish they made a category just for you!!

If someone falls for you and your ideas of spirituality, then maybe you would be world famous in your bathroom, or in some fan site when your book sells its first copy! I wish you all the luck!

Tsk Tsk!

What a waste of a life! Maybe right now you are sitting in a spa with your hair curlers on, getting the best manicure while you are dictating your 'Top Spiritual Bestseller' to your secretary...

Or maybe you really are trying for the Nobel Prize for Literature...

Oops then you are in the wrong forum dearie!!!

(Sorry! But I just couldn't help myself once I started ROTF LMAO!!! This post should have been filed under jokes, don't you think?!!)

Asanga | Tue, 04/20/2010 - 13:44
Gilana's picture

So, further to the other comments,

Wow. I thought I posted the most pointed stuff on this site! Doesn't excuse me, but wow! (My ego is gratified that I'm not the only one who can get sarcastic!! Good for you guys! :)

Laina, I guess what they are saying is that: competition, desire for fame, money, etc. is what most of us identify as "ego," which is the desire to protect, indulge and promote the self as separate from everything else, ie God, existence, truth, etc.. It is antithetical to the search spiritual people are engaged in, and obviously when somebody says they are enlightened then asks for the type of gratification that blocks that process, people get a little grouchy.

After visiting your site, and without malice, I'd have to warn you that you are probably not enlightened. (Hey, folks! What if she is really enlightened and just playing us?) I say probably simply because I am not the final judge. You might be! But you don't show the signs of it that I've come to recognize. Enlightenment is very precious to spiritual people, and usually hard-fought and hard-won and, if you use that term in the context you have, people may be very unkind to you as a result.

So if you really want to be one of America's top writers, you should know that you come across like the New Agers (whom make lots of money in that genre). But you won't get the real spiritual crowd. And you might want to change the word “enlightenment” at least if you aren't clear on what it means and you don't want people to get mad at you (or possibly violent toward you). It certainly has nothing to do with and possibly is the opposite of "empowerment."

Good luck.

Gilana | Wed, 04/21/2010 - 00:05
Quantum's picture

beautifully said

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Quantum | Wed, 04/21/2010 - 01:38
Gilana's picture

Post Script

Um....what votes are you talking about? The next level of what?

(If it was on your site and I missed it - sorry.)

Gilana | Wed, 04/21/2010 - 02:34
PranaBeats's picture

compassion

Even though I agree that the author is probably not aware of what she is doing, I don't believe that the projection of the judgments in these comments are in any way helping this person to realise that she is most likely caught in the veil, like everyone else.

Some people get caught up in wanting to be the best author, others in judging said author :)

May you have compassion for ALL living beings said the wise Buddha, and that includes people who have desires.

Laina, I hope you come to realise that what you want is not what you really want, and become able to move beyond the projections of the mind.

I understand your need to be recognised as I feel this too, but I simply manifest it in a different way.

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Thu, 04/22/2010 - 17:31
santana's picture

True compassion is to say what you think as it is

Personally, I don't think compassionate expressions are the right attitude in such a case and are not to the best of the underlying author and his/her chances to grow. In most cases our mind and ego are so strong that one needs to have a kick in the ass to wake up.

Being compassionate might give a pleasant feeling, it may be the bonton and the "spiritually correct" thing but I think that part of our responsibility to each other is to say the things as they are even bluntly as most true great teachers used to do (e.g. UG Krishnamurti, Osho, Papaji, and above all Nisargadatta Maharaj). I think this is the true compassionate thing, not that which hides behind nice words.

I think one of the great differences between spirituality and New Age is that the veils of being nice and appropriate are removed for honestly putting the things as they are. I personally prefer to hear the crude opinion of people about me and their honest uncensored feedback inspite of the fact that it may be hurting to my ego. It is part of the sacrifice I'm willing to take in order to make sure my spirituality is true and that my growth is in top priority.

santana | Thu, 04/22/2010 - 20:06
PranaBeats's picture

Yes, as it is, or is it? :)

Hi Santana,

You are absolutely right, however, my feeling is that the comments expressed above weren't coming out of the space you speak about. I don't believe in nice words for the sake of nicety, but to express without considering whether the message will get across or not isn't "true" as it comes out of a reaction or a space where we believe our judgment to be reality, rather than a conscious manifestation of communication. In this case there is nothing true about it, it's just an extension of a program.

If we forget that we are communicating to ourselves and get stuck in separation, then we are lost. My point was simply to remember that this aspect manifested in "I want to be top spiritual author" is so OBVIOUSLY far removed from being present to the moment, that it requires a different kind of attention. At least in my opinion :)

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Fri, 04/23/2010 - 05:37
Gilana's picture

Non-Judgmentality is no fun

Judgment is my favorite smoking gun, a great accusation!

It's also my favorite game. "That" means "this" and "this" means "that!" “You are doing that, can’t you see?” It's the most fun you can have without really sticking your own neck out, really getting in the game. If I'm judging, I must be a higher authority. I am a "commentator." People will listen carefully, "hummm - she might be right..." Woo-hoo!

I love doing it because it tells me where I am and what I think, it helps clears up the cloudy thoughts and beliefs I didn’t know I had, it gives me justification for what I do, it measures the strength of a thought or belief compared to other people’s thoughts and beliefs. It makes me look sooo good when I’m right! And sometimes, I can express it completely enough to see the ridiculous (ie incompleteness) of it.

But it's not reality. It's just...well, Meeeeeee!

My master says: You are always going to have thoughts. You are always going to have emotions. They will never go away; you will never become "Non-Judgmental" you will always have a reaction. The human mind generates them like…..like a machine created to do so!

JUST DON'T BELIEVE THEM. Wait. Don’t live them. Respond, don’t react.

I say: Let’s play. Acknowledge them, speak them if you must, write them to me - I don't mind! - explore them to your heart's content let's argue and spat and see who gets the final point, and when we finally wind down and see that they aren't comprehensive enough, maybe we can relax their hold on us a itsy-bitsy bit...let a little more in, "well, maybe it could be differen...maybe what you said...maybe something I can’t even imagine."

I want to argue with you, but be “big” enough to understand the whole time that it’s just us playing.

P.S. I find the stronger I express opinions, the "righter" I am, the more self-righteous I am, the more apparent is the ridiculousness and the easier it is for me to see I'm being rigid. Mostly because at that point I begin to rave a lot, out loud, to my family (or the other people at the grocery store.)

P.S.S. I have experienced that the only thing more fulfilling than arguing and judging is the peace that succors me when I’m not so interested in playing. But I still have a lot of feisty energy to play!

Gilana | Fri, 04/23/2010 - 21:27
PranaBeats's picture

Discerning...

Hi Gilana, I agree with you to a certain extent and if you read again, I didn't judge judgment :P

But I'll say this: judgment is when you're caught up in the idea that what you think is right or wrong and that it applies to the rest of the universe. You become dual, you suffer and you create suffering as your attachments and resistances become your projection of reality. Is it fun to suffer, even if you're not aware that you're suffering? Some say ignorance is bliss...

Discernment, however, is when you become aware that you are judging and that you can take action upon that judgment, not from the space where you believe it to be real, but from a space where you realise that once you let go of this idea, it doesn't matter how you respond, because your response will be from a space of freedom, of consciousness. This space becomes so clear that it is communicated into everything you do, everything you say and everything you are.

This, for me, is much more fun than judgment :)

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 06:30
barbara's picture

I don't think this is what judgement means

To the best of my opinion that is not judgement, non-judgment does not mean not to have an opinion, to be a zombie, to say artificially that everything is OK.

Judgment means that you conclude about the whole based on one aspect of a whole, which is in most cases a baseless inferring (for example: he stole once so he is a completely bad person who is capable of doing any malicious deed etc.)

This issue is important to analyze because many times we find ourselves restraining ourselves and acting artificially just in order to adapt to images of ourselves we would like to be as spiritual people. As someone wrote here, I think, the most vital issue for us as spiritual people is to act naturally with minimum mind control that imposes perceptions, values and restrictions. The "right" behavior can only come naturally and automatically as a by product of some change within and it is just a by product not the thing itself.

The following is an excellent post that discusses precisely this issue of judgmentalism: http://www.gurusfeet.com/blog/what-quot-being-judgmental-quot-realy

barbara | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 11:03
PranaBeats's picture

Definitions

Hi Barbara,

Some dictionaries might propose different definitions than yours, but everything in life is open to interpretation and I don't claim to know the truth :)

I mostly agree with what you say, but my point was relating to the original post from the author who wants to be the best in America or the World or the Universe or wherever she believes to be, and the comments that followed.

These comments were, in my opinion, reactive.

That's basically what I was trying to express and I was simply suggesting to take a breath (or more) before responding from a space of judgment and instead, find the compassion within. One can then answer in any way one finds appropriate and that compassion, whether manifested through cutting words or not, will be communicated.

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 12:12
joejo's picture

Judgment & Response

Life is a series of challenges thrown at us & we need to respond appropriately. I want to demystify this "space" and "compassion" and "maybe" that people add.

One needs to respond from "fact" and not from belief, opinion or superficial reaction. Strong and violent reactions always betray emotions that we all know come from other than source of love or compassion. These emotions are not difficult to recognize for they constitute most of our emotional life & are found in pairs like pride-humility, love-hate,joy-sorrow etc.

Now "facts" could be subjective perception for one cannot wait to be completely objective before one responds for many things need to change before one can get even a tiny speck of objectivity. In the absence one could apply ,"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

joejo | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 14:40
Asanga's picture

Mr/ Ms Goody-two-shoes can never bring lasting change in anyone

Dear 'Pranabeats,

Before you comment on the comments, Have a look at the Original Poster's other blog entries (There are only four). This person does not have any friends on this web site and has not taken the trouble to respond to the comments here. She has been on board this site for over 4 months, and yet, she has made no comments on any other person's entries. All this is no judgment- just a statement of facts.

Consider some of Ms Laine's writings here:

1. If you like shortcuts, in order to spend more time at your desired destination, then sit back, relax, and look for my future articles. I’ll provide you with simple, practical and easy to use ideas that will have you feeling Freedom in no time. In the mean time, I’ll give your regards to Mickey!

(on Thu, 01/14/2010)

2. Are you willing to go the distance and uncover your Gift? Did I mention that there is no amount of gold in the world that is worth more than the love, joy, peace, fun and ease you’ll experience when you reach the Summit of Spirituality? So what are you waiting for?

If you want to join Team Enlightenment, call me, I’d love to be your coach!

(on Fri, 02/26/2010)

What do you infer? Don't you think the time to be nice has gone back here?! This 'soul pop star' will damage a lot of souls with her brand of 'self awakening' before people see through her charade.

You might say, let her- and let people stumble here before they find more secure footing and true masters. I agree- but, don't you think there is a responsibility we, as seekers of real awakening, have to our fellow travelers- in putting up signboards like 'quicksand' or 'dead end'?

You explain that some of your words have not been understood in the context you presented them. Exactly the same is possible for how you interpreted the comments of others. Although you opined that these were 'reactive', your yardstick of this opinion itself is simply what you read- rather interpreted these words as. Every person comes from some context, and it could be out of 'Ruthless Compassion', as I believe I do...

It is a good idea to recognise early in life, that real spirituality is not for soothsayers. One needs to call a spade a spade. Yes, it is sad to look around and see that a great many 'new age gurus' have become 'successful' top spiritual authors by pandering to this 'goody two shoes' talk.

People love to hear niceties, but like candy, which tastes nice while one eats it, glib discourses do not help people work towards self realisation. You don't really take back much in terms of true transformation after a week-end seminar...

If one is not straight with people like Ms Laine, after observing her activity- or rather, non-activity here, for a while (some weeks of watching and then giving a straightforward 'whack on the side of the head, dripping with sarcasm' comment cannot be termed reactive, don't you agree?), then one is doing great injustice to all those sincere seekers after the truth, who have begun to gather at this august virtual learning space...

I would also like to say to you that the following comment comes after a few days of observing, and isn't reactive at all.

Being gentle and soft spoken is a good thing- but sometimes one needs to be stern and giving a rap on the knuckles to someone straying, is not out of place. In fact, if Ms Laine takes these comments in the right spirit, they will do her a world of good.

If one has an issue, like wanting to 'look good' in peoples' eyes, one will never make a real difference to them- since one more concerned with seeking THEIR approval of one's 'way of being' with them...

I am, yet I am not...

Asanga | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 17:09
PranaBeats's picture

context

You are completely right about the context, I only recently joined myself and am still finding out how the system works and thanks to your post, discovered the tracking thing. I had no idea of Ms. Laine's previous non-posting and soul-fishing.

Nevertheless, I still question myself whether the comments will help Ms. Laine, but that is up to you to see if your actions bring the fruit you wished them to :)

My feeling remains the same, albeit contextualised and in perspective.

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 18:15
Jasmin's picture

Be judgmental by all means regardless of what it means

I agree, we take all sorts of behaviors which we believe are supposed to be of spiritually advanced people and try artificially to adopt them regardless of what within believing that the outer will influence the inner (behavior will effect the essence) but thus only instigate inner conflict. The reflective deep gaze, the silence, the smile, barefoot, lotus posture, little food, deep breath, respectable white or orange cloaks, being polite and in control, being compassionate, not reacting, meditative, never getting angry - all these are not only useless but harmful if are not natural.

It's like trying to have a flame first without the oil within yet.

Be judgmental by all means regardless of what it means. Be happy by all means regardless of what it means. When the inner will have no judgment or happiness or anything else, you will no more externalize them, whether they are good or bad.

Jasmin | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 15:41
PranaBeats's picture

A step

Sometimes, when I realise I'm not in the space I want to be in, I remind myself to smile or laugh, even though it doesn't feel comfortable, but once I do it, it becomes natural, because it is my, and everyone's, natural state of being. Is it harmful to take a step into who we are?

It takes effort to stop making an effort, at least in my experience.

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 18:19
B-friend's picture

Fires

It's like trying to have a flame first without the oil within yet.

Love this quote and the self honesty it takes to see what you see above.

...Beautiful

mmmmmwaaa

B-friend | Mon, 04/26/2010 - 03:51
Gilana's picture

You are right, but it doesn't help

You say: Is it fun to suffer, even if you're not aware that you're suffering? Some say ignorance is bliss...

I would answer that you have to have pity of those of us who have not gotten to the place you are at yet....and it's much better to accept where you really are, not to overlay it with "what could be" and keep going. And even have some fun at it.

Isn't the hard part that I (we all) could argue your point as convincingly as you do?

If I pretend that I don't like to judge when I do, I will be stuck forever. (Not to mention the "dis" to truth. Which just can't be good.)

Maturity will win out if I persist and my misperceptions will rightly become the rungs of the ladder if I explore them completely.

Gilana | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 16:24
PranaBeats's picture

Where are you?

Hi Gilana,

I will just ask, is the place we are at where we think we are?

Or is where you breathe? :)

I am nowhere different than you are at but if we will accept a breath from ourselves, then we might become aware of where we are.

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 18:02
Gilana's picture

Umm,

Could you say this in a different way? I'm not getting what you are giving, but I'd like to.

Are you talking about just being, existing?

Gilana | Fri, 05/28/2010 - 00:15
B-friend's picture

Any publicity is good publicity

One of my all time favorite spiritual authors is Dan Millman. As a young man around 19 or 20, I decided to start reading books in the "spiritual" section at the bookstore. His, "Way of the Peaceful Warrior" was one of the first books I ever picked up. Of anything I read, he may have had the most impact as he provided that little extra courage I needed to truly seek.

Now I might find his stuff a little elementary, but that's where I was at then. Who knows who Miss Orlando has the ability to inspire.

I guess there are more fruitless things that can be done than doing work such as writing about what spirituality and enlightenment means to some one.

B-friend | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 17:57
PranaBeats's picture

and the sacred journey to Hawaii too...

I can relate to that B-friend, especially since The Way of the Peaceful Warrior and its sequel were very inspiring to me too some years ago :)

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 18:04
B-friend's picture

Great Books

I've forgotten the affections for his books until it just come flooding back.

"The Life You Were Born to Live" was a fun one to own too. It was this book that encouraged me to try vegetarianism. At the time, I lived with constant back pain and walked with a limp for around a year. If I laid on the ground I wouldn't be able to lift one of my legs(forget which one now..lol) off the ground. In this book, which is I guess based on numerology, it mentions that my birth number is prone to lower back problems and that a vegetarian diet is recommended. After one month of becoming a vegetarian, the back pain and limp disappeared and I had no more problems lifting my leg in the air if I lay on my back.

Could have been psychosomatic I suppose, or could have been a clever device placed by Father Guru to encourage me to pay attention to vegetarianism and purity of being. Who knows.

Anyways, Long live Soc.

"Better never to begin, but once begun, better finish"

B-friend | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 19:57
PranaBeats's picture

Pulp Fiction

"Better never to begin, but once begun, better finish"

or as Samuel L. Jackson says in the above movie "If you do shit, don´t leave the shit undone..."

:D

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sun, 04/25/2010 - 20:00
B-friend's picture

Toilet Humor

That one cracked me up..I'm gonna have to use that one sometime PranaBeats.

B-friend | Mon, 04/26/2010 - 03:30
george's picture

Was Dan Millman the best spiritual author of that year?

The underlying logic behind "Who knows who Miss Orlando has the ability to inspire" can be used on anything to justify anything and so I don't see much in it.

I think the relevant question is "Who knows who Miss Orlando has the ability to discourage".

PS. I know too many people whose first encounter with spirituality was an especially-bad spiritual book or an especially-bad spiritual guru that made them flee and never agree to try it again.

george | Sat, 04/24/2010 - 21:41
B-friend's picture

relevancy

I find it laughable that people run from "spirituality" because of a book. Good for them. May they keep coming up with excuses to keep fleeing.

People who enjoy accessorizing their egos with spiritual and philosophical precepts may be burned once or twice. Those who are ripe minded will always have trouble putting out their fire, especially with books.

Your relevant question uses the same logic you discounted to begin with. What is relevant is the reaction the original post inspired in others.

Spend a split second looking at it and you will see it is a reaction born from the spiritual frustration people find within themselves. They react to a person offering bullshit..and yell BULLSHIT! How futile is that?

This will always be their answer until they see the logic and truth in what is illogical to you. Leave alone what is for others.

Besides, the same people lambasting the original poster quite enjoy themselves doing the same thing she's doing to begin with for free on this site.

Cynicism and hypocrisy are quite enjoyable for many but are troublesome and useless qualities in the end.

B-friend | Sun, 04/25/2010 - 01:08
not_me's picture

It's called first impression and trauma

I find your arguments confused and a bit irrelevant.

If you find it laughable than you don't know much about people or maybe haven't met enough. It's called first impression and in more aggravated situations it is called trauma and there are so many people who were open to hear and happened to take a bad book or a bad satsang and generalized from this about the whole spiritual stuff. It happens a lot with religions also and of course in any other walk of life but it is acute in spirituality because in spirituality as opposed for example to the academia there is no order and no filtering - so many self proclaimed wanna be teachers and writers.

Regarding your claim that others do the same thing in this site - there is a huge difference between somone who declares himself a "spiritual teacher" or/and a "spiritual author", one who charges for his services, one who invests in advertising his name as such and between people who share their views, insights, realizations with others here and in other forums without putting their names in the front, without asking payment, without declaring their views as the only truth, etc.

not_me | Sun, 04/25/2010 - 08:12
B-friend's picture

Perspectives

I know all to well the perspective you have. It doesn't end with spiritual authors, false teachers, or false religions. Not even close.

As it is, it is still only a silly competition with around 2500 authors competing for this title as a means of promotion. Having watched the authors pitch, I'm sure their is a demographic she could connect with. The seeds of non dual thought seem to be being planted by many different characters. Those who plant the seeds may have nothing to do with the harvest whether they claim so or not.

B-friend | Sun, 04/25/2010 - 14:00
Gilana's picture

Nobody needs to calm down

I have recently (and painfully) found great value in declaring myself. It seems to be the balance to surrender. Or maybe it is the result of surrender?

As far as I know (which isn't much, I'll agree) there is a point that a person must stop outside advice, inspiration, criticism and even encouragement. That point seems to be: what you really know to be true. At that point, some sort of dignity arises, and says "enough." Then, you stay your ground; you declare what is real, and no amount of persuasion effects. I have noticed that you also become very quiet--all commotion ceases in reverence to truth.

Since I'm at that point, I'll say the author is wrong to post here. The tumult she caused is useful if it's instruction is heeded. A lot of raw heart went into these posts, painful memories stirred, self-righteous instruction given.

What it means to me is: I don't go for her kind of nonsense. She is impertinent to post here. I show more compassion for idiots than I have for true hearts--but one is always less forgiving and more contentious with one's siblings, and it teaches. I don't fall for sweet easy fixes that tell me to sit down and shut up anymore--even if they are "right." Even when they are accepted and honored by the one I love the most, trust the most, have surrendered to.

My Master says: Love can take any face and do anything that is "necessary." I see the slaps given as love--they were quick, sharp and stinging. If she was sincere at all she would have felt them. If she has no sincerity, nothing will effect her anyway, who cares? I've learned a lot about the posters and honor you guys more.

I think a big trap for spiritual seekers is complacency--the nectar of religion. Obviously, we don't fall into that group.

Gilana | Sun, 04/25/2010 - 17:04
Gilana's picture

Judgment

I said: "I'll say the author is wrong to post here. She is impertinent to post here."

See!

That certainly is judgment! How come none of you guys called me on it?

No judgment is correct or wise. Not of yourself or of anyone else. "Wrong" is a judgment. "Impertinent" is a judgment. I also judge....even I don't wanna, even though I can't possibly know the truth.

And that's the way it is folks!

Gilana | Mon, 04/26/2010 - 22:01
Quantum's picture

Would have..

I was going to call you on it.. but I got sidetracked by a thought. Then another. And another.

Quantum | Mon, 04/26/2010 - 23:12
PranaBeats's picture

clarifying

I just wanted to clarify, in case it was misunderstood, that in no way did I ever say to be quiet or not say anything about this "endeavour" to be a top spiritual author. I know that nobody said I said this, but I just wanted to make it crystal that what I meant wanted to question was the source or the space where the communication stemmed from.

As I also said before, it don´t think it really matters if it´s a slap or a hug, as long as it comes not from reaction, judgment, ego, identity, attachment or ignorance, but from consciousness.

That´s all :)

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Sun, 04/25/2010 - 19:38
Gilana's picture

clarifying

Nope - didn't mean you. Questioning is never a problem, only an opportunity.

Love,
gilana

Gilana | Mon, 04/26/2010 - 22:03
Azeemi's picture

Why this hullabaloo within

Why this hullabaloo within the spiritual group? If we are true seekers and/or spiritual people, then, we should be giving enough. This poor lady just wants a piece of this world in the form of fame, through votes. We shouldnt deprive her of this and facilitate in her becoming the "next top spiritual author"! Why not? Haven't We, as spiritualists left the material path long ago in pursuit of God's recognition instead of the world's recognition? Let's give her what we have left behind.

I am still wondering why her honest request stirred up the non-existant egos of the spiritualists, or were they merely suppressed?!?!

I give my unwanted and undeserved fame to LainaOrlando.

AzeemiSoul

Azeemi | Mon, 05/10/2010 - 13:54
Quantum's picture

LOL...simply...

Simply divine!

Quantum | Mon, 05/10/2010 - 16:12
Gilana's picture

Worry and Compassion

Certainly your response is mature and completely correct for yourself. I think the hooplah was in our desire to save those--who may not be as spiritually mature--time, effort and frustration.

If you are surefooted, then you have no worries. I am concerned because I have listened to other's stories about: misdirection, trust and betrayal of trust, and worry about sincere seekers wasting time and going in circles under misguided direction.

As mature spiritual "seeker"s we all know that every path leads to the divine, that all confusion will get sorted out with persistence, that truth will always prevail in it's subtle force. How many lifetimes it takes, how many problems it brings and how many times we turn away in mistrust and disgust doesn't matter.

However the concern and reaction seems to come from worry and compassion for beginners whom might be misdirected as a result of this lady's influence.

In its lowest form, its worry--exhibiting a basic mistrust of God. In its highest form its compassion--an unselfish desire to serve others.

I don't know if you were ever misdirected, but it seems to "leave a mark." I can't blame people for reacting...they want truth. But it is good to call a spade a spade.

Gilana | Wed, 05/12/2010 - 17:46
Azeemi's picture

Peace, Love and

Peace, Love and Prayers.

AzeemiSoul

Azeemi | Thu, 05/13/2010 - 07:54
Quantum's picture

Love love love....

All you need is love.
Love is all you need.

All together now...

She loves you,
Ya
Ya
Ya

Quantum | Thu, 05/13/2010 - 16:21
LainaOrlando's picture

Namaste'

From my heart, I thank each of you for taking the time to share your perspective, on my post. I really appreciate the honest comments, and can assure you, I’ve taken none personally. I do appreciate, and receive the valuable information, from the teacher within each of you, and let the rest be.

By the way, of the 2,500 hundred authors that entered, The Next Top Spiritual Author contest, 250 have moved to round two. Although I did not move to the next round, I have learned many things about the publishing world, which will come in handy when I am ready to share my message, with those who are meant to receive it.

In love and gratitude,

Laina

LainaOrlando | Wed, 05/19/2010 - 20:45
NIDHI PARKASH's picture

> Namaste''

Hello Laina,
There is no need to be spiritual author if we cannot. No need also to be the top most spiritualist if we contest or not contest but one thing is sure we must have to be free, free, free and more free from the body & flesh, mind, intellect, ego, lust and lucre etc. to get absolute freedom designated 'Salvation'.

www.sahajayoga.org.in

NIDHI PARKASH | Thu, 05/20/2010 - 16:55