members of guru's feet.com have more EGO than a normal person

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one day while chatting on a guru"s feet .com i feeled that
including me & all of the members of guru's feet have more ego than a normal person,i think that all of us are in the ego of our knowledges of sprituality or enlightment ,but the truth is that we all are blank from inside, please forgive me if i have said anything wrong. goodbye



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You ego you

Do you feel better now that you've said it? Good.

Now what is ego?

Is that all you care to see in others?

Can an individual exist without ego?

Do you resent happy egos?

Do you feel for troubled egos?

Individuality is ego my friend. To fault others for individuality is an endless game. There is no "more ego" or "less ego". There is only ego.

Modern psychology has given it's own idea to the term ego. Ego in spirituality was used in a different sense. Your own ego has confused the two.

The individuations of God are many. Each will have their own approach to life. You are One of these individuations.

Should we all just pretend we are beggars at your feet? Worthless petty existences worthy of no expression except humility and longing for a "true" Guru? You might seek to feel this way but why should all others?

And how do you know those whom you judge are not just working out their kinks? Tend to yourself. Examine your own "ego" rather than condemn others for being what you are too.

Some egos think they know sports, some think they know politics, some think they know love, some think they know life. Even if they are ignorant of what they think they know, by focusing on what interests them they will stumble upon wisdom eventually. There is no point in finding fault with that. It is a blessing to be inspired by such interests as "truth" or "spirituality" or "enlightenment". It's also a blessing to not be concerned with those things. It all depends on the individuation and the infinite amount of variables that lead them to being who they ARE.

Modern spiritualists like to throw the ego word around at others. It's the same type of venom that a warrior might feel when they call someone a coward, or the way an athlete may call another athlete a cheat, or a politician a liar. In spirituality we call others, "egos". It cracks me up.

The sooner you learn to not identify others as only egos, the sooner you may learn to not limit yourself as being only an ego.

You can call me ego if you want, I don't mind it. But as the Mayans would say, "In Lak'ech", I Am Another Yourself.

B-friend | Mon, 07/26/2010 - 07:37
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@ B-friend, Loved the way you've defined spiritual 'Ego'...

Very clear elucidation. Thank you for writing this.
I am, yet I am not...

Asanga | Mon, 07/26/2010 - 07:52
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thank u

thank u ,i have read ur comment, i like it very much , or in the other words i can say that u have opened my eyes ,i also want to know about the relationship between love & god
please explain me if u can, thank u.

jasdir singh jaura | Mon, 07/26/2010 - 07:58
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things that make my- SELF go MmmhhHH....LOLLL

Dear B-Self-Friend...And how do you know those whom you judge are not just working out their kinks?
....isnt He too....justtttttt being, working out illusions of Kinks?

Tend to yourself. Examine your own "ego" rather than condemn others for being what you are too.
...is he NOT too/also condemed....was it not rather a mere perspective that one can/is entitled to voice?

Some egos think they know sports, some think they know politics, some think they know love, some think they know life.....SOME even THINK, that they can indeed THINK...as well as them thinking that they not ONLY know and Understand Self, yet they can CONTROL whatever they wish....including self...including Self's ego.

Even if they are ignorant of what they think they know, by focusing on what interests them they will stumble upon wisdom eventually. ....Yeah just like the direction to God, that takes a left turn @ Nonsene and a right turn @ Wisdom...only to find out the Nonsense and Wisdom hold hands/go hand in Hand....form a Circle;)

There is no point in finding fault with that. It is a blessing to be inspired by such interests as "truth" or "spirituality" or "enlightenment".
REALLYYYY??? that almost sounds like: VALUABLE .....simply to my Self...inspiration, and or Interest...is that which keeps the appearance/dream/hallucination go-in...in this grand scheme of Self's UNI-verse...ode to joy if you will....LOLLL

It's also a blessing to not be concerned with those things.
....LOLLLL Yepppp if Self ONLY blesses this Self with the thought of NOT giving a damn!!!

It all depends on the individuation and the infinite amount of variables that lead them to being who they ARE.......Actually this Self enjoys the contemplation, that NOTHING is outside of/in Self....NOT even ego

Cheers, another B-Self;)

When Self got sick of his saints
and bored with guru's
he created me ...
to LAUGH at Everythingggg

they took seriously.

B-Self, Eternal Infinite Sri Fukkamee Swami

Bercano | Tue, 07/27/2010 - 00:04
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Fair Questions

>>>...isnt He too....justtttttt being, working out illusions of Kinks?<<<

Of course..You can ask him though if any kink was "worked out". The mind is never just "being" is it?

>>>..is he NOT too/also condemed....was it not rather a mere perspective that one can/is entitled to voice?<<<

Is he being condemned? The concept of ego was discussed. Ask him he feels condemned. I never feel condemned if I am corrected. I crave being corrected. I love being corrected. Besides, I know I can correct no one anyway. Despite the appearances, I know with full import that I can do nothing for no one. As far as I know, the lesson was for me.

>>>..SOME even THINK, that they can indeed THINK...as well as them thinking that they not ONLY know and Understand Self, yet they can CONTROL whatever they wish....including self...including Self's ego.<<<

I can digg that thought. But if you understand this, why are you still seeing anyone as something separate from Jasdir?

>>>VALUABLE .....simply to my Self...inspiration, and or Interest...is that which keeps the appearance/dream/hallucination go-in...in this grand scheme of Self's UNI-verse...ode to joy if you will....LOLLL <<<

Is the mind's view of what a dream or illusion is, the same view Self holds? The mind's view doesn't comprehend the View of the Self's. So the mind can say it is all illusion and a dream but that is still a falseness that must be let go itself. I think you've already hinted at this.

B-friend | Tue, 07/27/2010 - 04:50
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....Smiless...Thankx

....Smiless...Thankx B....enjoys bouncing thoughts of other-Self
I believe it was you that used the word Condemn ...I merely helped myself to what you said : Tend to yourself. Examine your own "ego" rather than condemn others for being what you are too.
Anyhow....as for seeing Jasdir,Someone/Something separate from the Self....that's just It...Simply to me....there is NOTHING, NOT a Thing that is an "exclusion" of SELF....which would answer I believe ...That I do NOT perceive Mind/Thoughts external from Self.
Dream and Dreamer...does each have a different View?...or are they NOT Intertwined/Interrelated/interchangeable ???

When Self got sick of his saints
and bored with guru's
he created me ...
to LAUGH at Everythingggg

they took seriously.

B-Self, Eternal Infinite Sri Fukkamee Swami

Bercano | Tue, 07/27/2010 - 05:28
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Identity-s?

>>>that's just It...Simply to me....there is NOTHING, NOT a Thing that is an "exclusion" of SELF....which would answer I believe ...That I do NOT perceive Mind/Thoughts external from Self.
Dream and Dreamer...does each have a different View?...or are they NOT Intertwined/Interrelated/interchangeable ???<<<

But which one do you identify with? That seems to be the whole crux of the issue. As was said earlier, one must know that a rope exists in order to differentiate from seeing the rope as a snake. Snake being this limited ego-limited existence, the rope our real Self, not the imagined one we see with mind. The mind only knows duality. I don't care to say duality is not right. Duality exists for whatever reasons. Perhaps as a means of creation in itself through the means of desire and fear, the bulldozer and jack hammer of creation. There is an identity beyond the limitations of duality. So many seek it but have no idea what they're looking for which is why they hardly ever look in and at themselves.

B-friend | Tue, 07/27/2010 - 07:01
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Identity-s?

Smilesss ...Hi again B
alright, lets have a L@@K ...Inside, Outside, Upside-Downside and all around o-Whole-Side
~*~ But which one do you identify with? That seems to be the whole crux...~*~
...the thing is B...MOST of US do not perceive themselves as the WHOLE-crux....they simply enjoy splitting hair/air/heir...which makes them appear far more Interesting...cos within all that appearance/deceptions...is simply far more entertainment...so much so that we worship Experts and Guru's....and it's God's
The Whole-Crux .....and Actually...none of us is seeing/witnessing them-Selves as the Whole-Crux........instead, do we ( the Self )constantly create more and more separations....and that 2 is SELF and what we understand that plays it-SELF as Eternal = the Game called "Life" = Spirit-U-ALL ....a Figment of Self's Imagination = I-Magi-Nationssssss

It is, becomes rather obvious to spot another Self (being)...that has lemme say Seen/witnessed it's inner-Being = Self

So to me...It also is rather Obvious that when one states, that the Self is Everything yet also Nothing...a question like with which do U Identify....Well its Obsolete isn't it??

.....the splitting hair and it's debates of a True Self, versus a False Self
...Of Truth versus Lies...of Wisdom versus Nonsense
...of Duality versus Nonduality....
....and whether or NOT Self-realization/Enlightenment really really REALLYYYY changes anything.

....have you ever mused about....why it is ...that what we would Call and perceive as a experienced Guru, that is slipping into Samadhi....why he bothers coming back into his body?
........... justttt another thought and muse;)

When Self got sick of his saints
and bored with guru's
he created me ...
to LAUGH at Everythingggg

they took seriously.

B-Self, Eternal Infinite Sri Fukkamee Swami

Bercano | Tue, 07/27/2010 - 16:31
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for crux sakes

>>>So to me...It also is rather Obvious that when one states, that the Self is Everything yet also Nothing...a question like with which do U Identify....Well its Obsolete isn't it??<<<

Are you or have you ever been the "Everything and Nothing". If so, then you would know the difference between ignorance and Knowing. In fact, ignorance can only come into view from knowing. So there are the ones who say that nothing needs knowing, nothing needs be done because it is All Self anyway..Okay..You can be the ignorance of Self or the Knowing of Self. Again, just depends on which you choose to identify with. The realized spoke to help others shift their identity from duality to Non-Duality. What the purpose would be in that is wonderous. How could "others" exist for them to be shifted? But, we do.

>>>.....the splitting hair and it's debates of a True Self, versus a False Self
...Of Truth versus Lies...of Wisdom versus Nonsense
...of Duality versus Nonduality....
....and whether or NOT Self-realization/Enlightenment really really REALLYYYY changes anything.<<<

It changes your Identity. If you believe all is Self then why deny Identity as not having a place in Self as well? Do you not have an identity? Can you not recognize yourself from another?

<<<....have you ever mused about....why it is ...that what we would Call and perceive as a experienced Guru, that is slipping into Samadhi....why he bothers coming back into his body?
........... justttt another thought and muse;)<<<

Those types are still in mind. I have mused, though, about how the Realized could teach..it must be very strange talking to yourself so much.

B-friend | Wed, 07/28/2010 - 06:06
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which part is denied in: Self is everything yet also Nothing??

It appears B-friend that you are missing my Point ( point Zero...LOLLL)...Now, which part is denied in: Self ( when I say I'm )is everything yet also Nothing??

~*~ Are you or have you ever been the "Everything and Nothing~*~ ....Indeed, IAM THAT!!!and so are U

~*~ If so, then you would know the difference between ignorance and Knowing. In fact, ignorance can only come into view from knowing.~*~ ....lemme Ditto that again, by saying: simply to this Self....It knows, it's aware, it's conscious that it is ALLTHATIS....including Ignorance, Knowing, Love, Hate, Evolution, it's Destruction/De-Evolution ....quite frankly Self seems to get its Kicks/Laughter more so out of war-games then singing its Hallelujah's ...at least so by appearance;)

~*~So there are the ones who say that nothing needs knowing, nothing needs be done because it is All Self ~*~
....Yeah well...How about Self is Saying so...while Self also keeps the game go-in....with Gurus, it's Healers, it's Experts, it's Perverts...it's Maya-entertainment isn't it??
Self is Duality as well as Monism/Nonduality

~*~The realized spoke to help others shift their identity from duality to Non-Duality~*~
...what you have failed to recognize is that:
1) Identity is regardless thriving upon it's dualistic acre
2)ly....even if we were to say: OH NO that is NOT what I meant I mean blah blah....just lemme say this as example: Unconditional Love.....is still/also a condition...isn't
it??....which means Identity still is a condition so is No-form....so is Nothing, so is Self!!

~*~It changes your Identity. If you believe all is Self then why deny Identity as not having a place in Self as well? Do you not have an identity? Can you not recognize yourself from another?~*~
.....LOLLLL I must be speaking in tongue's....and I felt all along that I said I am All, that is SELF

~*~Those types are still in mind. I have mused, though, about how the Realized could teach..it must be very strange talking to yourself so much.~*~
Allow this Self tossing out some thoughts, a perspective if U will.....No Matter the experienced Guru may be....No Matter even whether or not, the Slipping into lets say Samadhi ..ONLY Arrogance, Pride, Vanity would Assume CONTROL....then rather to volunteer that ONLY Self determines it Slipping into as well as the Coming out of Samadhi....as is Kundalini as is Laughter....IT = SELF is it's Peek-a-Boo, that appears to lets say is a Coming and go-in....like a In-Hale/Halo and X-Hale/Halo/HAllo ;)
...as for the Realized, Self teaching....the Dictionary is saying that to Teach is to "to impart knowledge or skill"....Self is teachings exactly that...it teaches that It-Self is Everything yet also Nothing = ALLTHATIS...which also suggests that No-teaching has the Same Merit;)

When Self got sick of his saints
and bored with guru's
he created me ...
to LAUGH at Everythingggg

they took seriously.

B-Self, Eternal Infinite Sri Fukkamee Swami

Bercano | Wed, 07/28/2010 - 21:08
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leave the others and concentrate on your ego

you cannot should need to change others (which is btw an act of... ego). you should concentrate on yourself. why does it bother u? let others have their egos...

The point is that in order for an ego to function it needs other egos to interact with. there is no significance to ego without other egos.

many here in gurusfeet are extremely advanced so ego or not ego they have abundance to contribute to us. don't let ego block you.

dabka | Mon, 07/26/2010 - 09:02
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Gurusfeet's big-egos and Little-egos

we are all little-egos, L'egos, that twist and torture spirituality at Gurusfeet to fuel all the Pride experts need to make their gurus and gods appear real.

L'ego is nothing but the Pride that comes from parroting all the outside-values experts need
to make gods and gurus appear real.

This Pride does not reveal the L'ego –
what reveals the true nature of the L'ego is the fury and fanatical kill, kill, kill rage L'egos get
whenever something threatens the outside-values
their gods and gurus need
to appear not only real, but really, Really; REALLY real.

… really, Really; REALLY

genep | Tue, 07/27/2010 - 00:13
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egomanics

one day while chatting on a guru"s feet .com i feeled that
including me & all of the members of guru's feet have more ego than a normal ....
…................
someone is observant with: “gurusfeet.com has a lot of egomaniacs.”
He posts his observations and egomaniacs shred him for his honest and astute observations.

LET ME BE PERFECTLY HONEST:
I'm probably the most certified if not potent egomaniac here … but

instead of condemning someone for being observant
I must compliment him
for seeing through all the spiritual garbage
we keep shoveling around
just so we can be bigger and better egomaniacs.
– really, Really; REALLY.

genep | Wed, 07/28/2010 - 01:17
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Judgement

I am struck by the unusual amount of judgement and pounding of each other here.

Let me add to it.

Mr. Jasdir Singh Jaura: I do believe you have said something wrong. thanks for the apology. I'll take it.

You are asking for judgment. We don't have the right to judge whether or not we have any ego, more ego or less ego. Even if we had the right, we have no way to do it. All we can do is try with every fiber to get closer to truth. People here are spending their precious spare time searching, questioning, expounding on what is inside them---instead of watching "famous people with wedgies."

It is also interesting how many different levels are being discussed at the same time. Truth comes in different intensities...

"I have to go to school now," is just as true as "There is no "i." Just at a different level. Why not acknowledge?

AND, if you are really laughing at everything, why the anger? Why the harshness? Why not gentleness, playfulness, caring and MOST IMPORTANTLY--affection for those who have the balls to post on this site, instead of just chasing stuff like the rest of the world? (Nothing wrong with that either, but it takes some maturity, some renunciation just to be here. Respect for that is good. Admiration for that is just.)

We, spiritual people, have to be kinder to ourselves, less judgmental of ourselves, less willing to hurt each other with "wise" and "right" words. We are doing immense work - larger than is going on in the mundane. Maybe by being kind, we will get closer to "no ego."

(or maybe not, maybe I'm just wishing, and assuming. But it did sound good at the end of that diatribe, didn't it?)

Gilana | Mon, 10/04/2010 - 18:37
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No need,

No need to be apologise, Your's reply......My pleasure,
>>>I am struck by the unusual amount of judgement and pounding of each other here.<<<,

Firstly: Read the post carefully, I have also written "INCLUDING ME",

Secondly: If you are talking about "Truth",
All that we all doing here on the site INCLUDING ME is just a "Time pass" or "Chatting", Nothing more than this, Forget the "Truth" we all are moving towards "False" insted of truth,

TRUTH is that we can also give this time to our meditations or by doing any service to mankind to permote our love for "Lord", insted of wasting our time on this electronic medieum ...............But! this is too....difficult,
TRUTH is not the subject to mare talkings, do & only do,

Thirdly: If you saying that >>>I am struck by the unusual amount of judgement and pounding of each other here.<<< ,
So what about YOU, does't you think that all these funda's apply on you also,

Forthly: We are not be able to convience our own faimily members, who are very close to us, regarding our views in spirituality, So how it is possible to convience other peoples globely,

Fifthly: Arguments have no ends, as Part of illusion,
So,Sorry for anything wrong i have written,
With respect, Goodbye.

jasdir singh jaura | Tue, 10/05/2010 - 08:00
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I Do include you my friend

Truly I am including you in what I have written. I'm sure your sweetness and gentleness goes far to defend you, but in my own way, this is an attempt to say "Don't hurt yourself!" I say to you, sorry for anything wrong i have written. :)

We move and speak and find joy and suffer in this world. As far as I can tell (EVERYBODY is invited to correct me if I'm wrong) the entire spiritual "path" is simply meant to find heaven. Within each of us.

Judging ourselves, beating ourselves, making ourselves wrong and egoistic...that's just the opposite.

My father (no angel) said about climbing a hill, "sometimes you have to walk down to get going back up." I have always assumed it's that simple and unjudged.

It's just down a little, not really worth noticing. Then we can resume the upward climb.

But if we put all of our attention on the down, make "down" the path, we'll never start back up. We'll never "deserve" the up, we'll have to fix it before we can start climbing back up, we'll have to admit that we were so nasty that we had to walk "down" the path before we were allowed to walk up, and worst of all, we might come to the conclusion that because we were so egoic to think we COULD climb up that we can never do so until we stop being so egoic...you see what I'm saying?

I guess what I'm saying is the judgement of "down" is the ego...the judgement, the energy, the trying to fix, the attention...

It's just a pathway....the goal deserves the attention and devotion, not the path. Does this make sense?

As far as this site is concerned, I don't know many who would "chat" about truth without some devotion. Isn't that what Satsang is about? Is it fair to compare this site as an electronic Satsang? That's how I feel about it. Better to talk it out, argue it out, express it all and get response rather than keep it in and not know really what is going on in us.

It comes down to stopping thinking more about what is wrong with me and start thinking more about what is divine in existence.

More to your second point, Jasdir, I'm going to start a new thread praising God, existence, devotional to truth...you know. Who's with me?

Gilana | Tue, 10/05/2010 - 16:02
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Good,

Good, Very Good, Very Very Good,
Your Views regarging >>>EVERYBODY is invited to correct me if I'm wrong<<< or >>>To know really what is going on in us.<<< ARE Very Very Very Good,

But! What about if m trying to pass a message in my whole post,that argues,argues,argues,argues and more argues have no ends,

Mean to say that subject which i have learned regarding arguments, till now is that is, (To avoid the arguments)
I have just learned that argues is the worst thing which is going on or devloping in me,(So can anybody help me,in overcoming on my this fault,) No! or Yes! U decide,

Because: As u have written that >>> ....the goal deserves the attention and devotion,<<<,
So when i sit on my meditations during night,when i start to concentrate towards "Lord",the arguments which i have done during the day time with different peopels stands in front of my inner eyes, rather concentrate towards "Lord",
(Hope u'll understand my point easyly),

As far as if u are talking about "Praising "Lord",
It would be my great pleasure, if will get the dust of feets, of that person, who is "Prasing "Lord" whole heartedly.

Trust Me, Gilana, Playing the game of "Love" with "Lord" is not so easy as we are thinking (saying as per my very small knowledge collected till now),
"Love" needs huge sacrifices,
In the true sence "Love" with "Lord" wrings the last drop of blood from the body, Even than, all its depend on "His" grace, that we could see the face of "Heaven" any day.

Well, Respect you so much,
Once again, sorry! if anything pinching or wrong written by mistake,
Goodbye.

jasdir singh jaura | Wed, 10/06/2010 - 06:49
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Jasdir you are right from the beginning! Please continue..!

If not ...See for a proof how many egos have replied to your post trying to safe their own sophisticated egos immediately.The egos never fail to answer back when exposed ,even my ego is doing it right now,ja ja,and it is fun!!Gurus Feet is bad place to post about that ego , that never ending seeker of being right(the comfort zone)but please continue exposing egos is very liberating....thanks for cleaning the house!

Anki | Mon, 09/26/2011 - 18:28