Living as Surrender

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This quote is from a live satsang which you can listen to
by playing this youtube video.

"If you live as surrender itself,
then you live in perfect peace.

You leave that surrender,
then you are becoming something;
you are becoming a someone.

Then that someone needs
to defend itself;
needs to have a position;
needs to be right
and make others wrong;
has desires, has needs, has fears
that need to be fulfilled.

So as a person,
the mind is constantly figuring out
how to manipulate this moment.

But when you live as surrender,
there's nobody here to defend.
There's nobody here
to manipulate this moment;
to make this moment different than it is.

When you are nothing
and you rest as that nothing,
then you are not nothing
in the sense of a void
that is empty of feeling
but rather a void that is full of feeling.

It's just the pure vibration of peace.

There's nobody there to attain something.
There is nothing needed
or missing or wanting.

It's just pure delight.
The vibration of innocent joy.

And that same joy,
that same consciousness,
that same nothingness
looks through everybody's eyes
and manifests as everything.

Much love,


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Quantum's picture

Kip, you come from a zen

Kip, you come from a zen background, so your posts resonate.

The Christian Serenity Prayer has always been problematic for me, and I didn't know why until this morning when this realization hit me:

The ego can never become enlightened, because the ego is born out of unconsciousness, of forgetting one's True Nature.

Accepting things as there are, dispassionate, and equanimity, are the essence of True Nature, they are not qualities of the ego. The nature of the ego is duality, that is why the ego cannot accept what it does not like. It will either like or resent. It may accept with resignation what it cannot change, but with resentment in the background.

I was looking at the Serenity Prayer from the level of ego. My ego resents having to accept things it cannot change.

True acceptance, and surrender to what is, is a quality of True Nature.

As long as I live in the ego, I will not experience this peace.

What say you?

Quantum | Sat, 04/12/2014 - 06:36