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Life is full of pain, but does it ever get better?
Will people ever care about each other, and make time for those who are in need?
Each of us has a part to play in this great show we call life.
Each of us has a duty to mankind to tell our friends we love them.
If you do not care about your friends you will not be punished.
You will simply be ignored... forgotten... as you have done to others

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How we behave is according to our nature as we experience it, and overlaying a false, duty driven behavior only brings about insincerity, non-integrity and therefore lack of trust. If you tell me you love me because it's your duty to do so, I'll congratulate you on the performance of your duty, but I won't feel loved, nor will I trust anyone else who uses those words.

Yes, life is full of pain, and transcending that pain is what spirituality is supposed to be all about. Genuine virtue is not found in behavioral overlays but only in this transcendence, so I say lets get serious about it. There's no other way.

Phroggy | Sat, 12/06/2008 - 09:37
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Getting serious

What you're thinking to get serious about, I have no clue. All the past suffering and future-projected suffering is imaginary... all of it. If one has to sit and think about it in order to "real-ize" it, it isn't there. Perhaps what's needed is to lose the seriousness?

Omkaradatta | Sat, 12/06/2008 - 20:04
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What is necessary is to stop playing games and pretending and get deadly serious, serious like our lives depend on it.

Phroggy | Sat, 12/06/2008 - 21:00
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Serious about...

Serious about... ? Seeing the truth? What?

Sincerity, earnestness, integrity, sure. Seriousness? If so, how should that manifest?

Omkaradatta | Sat, 12/06/2008 - 21:11
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Lets not quibble over semantics.

serious   [seer-ee-uhs]

3. being in earnest; sincere; not trifling: His interest was serious.

Phroggy | Sat, 12/06/2008 - 23:13
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MMkay, we won't quibble over semantics. I'm seer-ee-uhs. Or seer-yiss, if ya prefer :-p.

Omkaradatta | Sun, 12/07/2008 - 02:04
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These questions...

"Life is full of pain, but does it ever get better?"

"Will people ever care about each other, and make time for those who are in need?"

The presence of these questions are a rejection of how things are now, which is what results in and maintains the pain/suffering. Thus, the questions themselves are faulty, and a source of suffering. All we can do is stop asking, and start living. Don't be absent in question-land, but present to this moment.

P.S. as you sat and wrote the above, were you full of pain? If not, then "life" isn't full of pain, your mind is. Note the difference in the two, it's very important. If you take 'memories of things' and 'hoped-for future' to be life, you are literally dead, living inside the mind.

Omkaradatta | Sat, 12/06/2008 - 19:26
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Unconditional Love and Laughter

Unconditional love has many forms. That part of love which feeds and nourishes is often forgotten as we focus on our own hunger. Emptiness is another word for this hunger. Truth and spirituality are another something we try to consume to fill this emptiness.

When we give the love we hunger for, we are filled. This is not selfishness. It is not selfish to need water and drink it when we are thirsty, is that not so? When you need love, give it. Welcome the nourishing qualities.

Some are also predisposed to feel the pain and hate that exist in this world more than others. Some are predisposed to do something about it more than others and their numbers are just as many as those that cause suffering.

The heart of the issue is desensitization. Just as there are those who are desensitized to hate and suffering, there are those who are desensitized to love. If it is more difficult for one to feel the love in this world, naturally the hate and suffering will have more of an affect on one's psyche.

Laughter is an oil that softens the calloused heart. If one is having issues with pain and suffering, find ways to laugh until you find a balanced state again.

Though dualism will still exist in one's psyche, it is okay to mend the areas that need mending. One's mental and emotional health are just as important as the physical.

AnotherYourself | Mon, 12/08/2008 - 02:37