The inner path

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Until and unless the seeker of truth finds the fact that, the religion, scriptures, god/guru glorification or chosen paths are inadequate and useless, in quenching his spiritual thirst, and finds them all as method of dead words, and then only he will be able to grasp and realize the non dual truth.
Truth pursuit is for those who has intense urge to know the truth of their true existence, and receptive mind, which has the courage to accept only uncontradictable truth, and reject the untruth. People who are emotionally and sentimentally involved with religion, god and scriptures and gurus and yoga should avoid indulging in pursuit of truth.
Religion, scriptural studies, theories, concept of god and yoga are valuable for those who do believe their present physical identity [ego] as real, and world as reality. And it helps to manipulate the worldly life.
Since pursuit of truth is a very personal journey, and there is nothing is needed other then verifying “What is mind?” and “What is substance of the mind?” Religion, concept of god, scriptural knowledge becomes big obstacle in realizing the non dual truth, because they are based on the body [I] as self, whereas the non dual truth is based on the soul/Ataman as self.
Since everyone is viewing the worldview on the base of object as subject [ body/’I’] due to ignorance, they have to become aware of the fact that ,the true subject, is Ataman by rectifying the reasoning base, from form, to formless, mentally in order to acquire the nondual truth.
Inquiry and reasoning on the true base revels the fact that, neither physical body, nor the ‘I’, the true self. The formless witness of the ‘I’ is the true self. The formless witness is Ataman/spirit. The three mental states of waking, dream and deep sleep are unreal, because they have no permanence. Man and his experience of the world is reality within the waking /dream. But the point is, the waking is also as unreal as dream. They come and go. Thus one has to realize the fact that there must be a knower [witness] of these three states which appear and disappear in succession.

One has to trace the source of the three states, from where they appear and disappear. The source is the witness and the true self. This has to be grasped mentally by constantly reflecting on the source until one gets the firm conviction that, the source itself is the true self, and the source is formless Ataman/spirit. Once this conviction becomes firm, then the true base is formed mentally, and one will be able to view and judge the worldview on the base of the formless subject.

On the base of formless subject [Ataman], the three states becomes an object to the formless subject [Ataman], and one will be to view and judge the worldview on the base of Ataman and realize the fact that waking /dream which consist of man and world are unreal, on the standpoint of the formless witness. This is first step the seeker has to take. Once the true base formed mentally the truth will start unfolding on its own.
It takes a long time to form the base mentally, but for those who are free from religion; scriptural knowledge and concept of god and yoga can grasp it with lesser time and effort.

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They cannot be inadequate and useless unless you want them to be

Religion, scriptures, god/guru glorification or chosen paths are NOT inadequate and useless. Their usage or negation may be so. Most probably, you simply did not let yourself dive completely into them maybe out of an attachment to your above stand, fearing that it may prove wrong.

You will be more wise with yourself if you cast away any sweeping statement and rule of any kind that your mind comes with. There are no sweeping rules, just hidden motives of the mind that make us to believe in such statements.

BTW, the most comic thing is that after stating this sweeping statement you come with this new doctrine of formless spirituality that according to your own statement must be inadequate and useless. Or maybe by coincidence, only your belief and path happens to be an exception?

solomon | Fri, 02/12/2010 - 09:30
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Re: They cannot be inadequate and useless unles


Isa Upanishads indicates that: By worshiping gods and goddesses and going to the world of gods after death is of no use. The time one spends in ritualistic practices is wasted; one can spend same time moving forward towards Self-knowledge, which is the main goal.

If self-knowledge is main goal then why indulge in religious prescription of god glorification,study of scriptures. It means the truth lies beyond religion,god glorification and scriptures.

One cannot reach the non-dual destination by glorifying god and goddesses and by doing that, one goes deeper and deeper into ignorance because the religion is based on the physical self/ego. It surely indicates the fact that, the seeker of truth has to drop the worshiping god and goddess in order to get self-knowledge.

Deeper Inquiry, analysis and reason revels the fact that, the ‘Self is not the body but the formless soul/spirit.
The soul has no religion. The religion is based on the body as self. Thus, religion is based on false physical self/ego. Thus whatever is known, seen, believed and experienced and accumulated on the false base is false hood. The formless substance and witness of the falsehood is real and eternal. Thus man and his idea of god and his religious beliefs and his experience of world are reality on the standpoint of the physical self/ego, and they are mere mirage on the standpoint of the soul, which is ultimate truth.

If one is freed from religious truth, he has better chance unfold the mystery of his true existence and realize the true existence is not physical but the spirit. Religion is the source of all imaginable faiths and disturbances; it is parent of fanaticism of civil discord, and it is the enemy of the mankind because it does allow one to know the truth of the true existence.

One cannot examine illusive subject like god, soul, faith, love, anger and other non-material subjects under a microscope. But one can definitely evaluate their validity through deeper inquiry, analysis and reasoning on the base of the formless soul, which is the source from where the duality/mind rises and subsides. it is necessary for the seeker of truth to verify the fact that, the self is not physical but the formless spirit before proceeding in pursuit of truth.

Truth realization is a very deep topic. One might ask what truth -realization is? Truth realization is realization of the knowledge of the true self to get unity in diversity. Identifying the fact that the Soul/self is the unified Whole.

Self- knowledge is not theoretical knowledge based on the physical self [ego] but the knowledge of the ultimate truth on which the physical existence [illusion] is dependent. Self-knowledge is the True Knowledge.

santthosh kumaar | Fri, 02/12/2010 - 23:30
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Clinging to irreligion is of no more use than clinging to religion.

Religions form a construct to allow the mind to consider the abstract. Ask the child raised by wolves where the soul is.

Your view of religion is like trying to become educated on politics by listening to the media..Cynical sweeping generalizations designed only to illicit a response rather than to illuminate.

I've been beaten plenty by bibles where I'm from. Irreligion is the same behavior. There's no difference.

Other than that, your advaitic elucidations are beautiful.

B-friend | Sat, 02/13/2010 - 08:07

Religions and scritures etc.

These books etc. are good for studies and to get information on religions. We must, if interested, main books of other religions and other various spiritual paths only to seek harmony in the theoretical aspects of all religions and systems of spirituality for the global unity but actual reality of these religions and systems is the self-realization, true experience of the Spirit. If these are helpful for self-realization then these are o k; otherwise all is useless except to entertainment to mind.

NIDHI PARKASH | Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:41