how to experience the truth

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The essence of truth to identify is moving far away as each day passes , enquiry of I , doesn't seem to fit in with the inner guru who could lead to the ultimate consciousness is being experienced by Guru's & saints is a remote existence for all aspiring spirituals



santana's picture

Why experience truth?

Why experience truth? what is it to experience truth? I don't understand why people feel the urge to seek truth or to argue about truth. After all happiness is what you really seek. Then who is it that seeks something unclear at all called truth? our ego? our bored mind? our mind that is addicted to theories and text?

You can experience happiness by accepting everything, by being willing to contain everything. This is the most simple yet solid experience. The fact that acceptance leads to happiness is clear as night and day.

And then not only happiness comes but an opening to transcendental spheres and unbelievable supernatural experiences. Though they are not important as happiness is they are still rewording and reviving.

And then also comes an opening to love. True ocean of abundant love.

santana | Mon, 08/31/2009 - 10:56
Phroggy's picture

"You can experience

"You can experience happiness by accepting everything, by being willing to contain everything. This is the most simple yet solid experience. The fact that acceptance leads to happiness is clear as night and day."

And yet the difficulty is that accepting everything is not possible while believing in the reality of the individual, and only the realization of Truth will end that belief. For thousands of years teachers (the very teachers who are quoted here repeatedly) have told you this. What sorcery is it that blinds you to the very words that you pretend to revere?

Buddha said "Life is suffering". Christ said "The Truth shall set you free". Is it logical to dismiss them in favor of your own beliefs? Take it from an athiest, Christ knew what he was talking about.

Beyond your delusion of acceptance and happiness, look and see if you are able to accept everything and if you are happy. Do you think you are the first person in all the history of humanity to find personal happiness? If you have found what humanity has sought for millenia, why are you not the richest, most sought after person in the world? Why are the gurus not bowing at your feet?

"And then not only happiness comes but an opening to transcendental spheres and unbelievable supernatural experiences."

Why would you seek this? Ego? bored mind?

Phroggy | Mon, 08/31/2009 - 21:21
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you can experience

acceptance of everything that happens around you ! will this be the ultimate in experience of the truth , then individuals who take everything lightly without any feelings would have been the right person , but that does not happen always is it?

sivasailam19 | Tue, 09/01/2009 - 07:54
santana's picture

Bake the cake instead of anlysing the recipe

"And yet the difficulty is that accepting everything is not possible while believing in the reality of the individual"

Why complicate things with analysis ABOUT when you can just do it directly and see by yourself that it is possible. And it is - individual or not individual, truth or not truth, realization or not realization, belief or not belief - throw all these concepts and meticulous analysis and just accept wholly and you will see how all these concepts about are obsolete and untrue.

When you accept totally you feel it in every cell, the degree of freedom and happiness is unlimited. You do not care whether this cosmic happening adheres to any logic or reason or not.

You ask: Why would you seek transcendental spheres and unbelievable supernatural experiences?

Who said I'm seeking this? Who said one should not seek this? Who said there should be an aim? Who said the consistent method of going beyond anything is valid? I do not need to seek them, they come on their own when you accept totally, the same way the sun rises, and they are accompanied by abundance of love. I'm modest, I'm enjoying life and the happiness life provides me instead of seeking all kind of concepts called realization and truth in the future or trying to articulate ways to achieve them or trying to build a dry schematic model of reality. I'm jumping to the pool and enjoying swimming instead of analyzing the pipes and the composition of the water. This analysis about something instead of experiencing and enjoying the something directly is, to my opinion, the motive of a bored mind, of ego.

santana | Tue, 09/01/2009 - 10:10
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I really wish we could get

I really wish we could get past the 'bake the cake', overanalyzing, logic and reason stage. I'm not doing any of that. That's just your way of dismissing my questions and keeping yourself asleep. You've overlaid the delusion of happiness onto the delusion of separateness, and if that delusion actually worked I would have nothing to say, but of course it doesn't.

That happiness is on the verge of collapse all the time and you know it because you cannot accept your wife cheating on you or your property being taken away from you or a debilitating illness or your unavoidable death. The pretense of acceptance is like the pretense of happiness, just more mind delusion. You can never put yourself deeply enough asleep to attain happiness. You have no choice but to wake up. Then you won't need to ask why folks are looking for Truth instead of pretending to be happy.

Phroggy | Tue, 09/01/2009 - 18:16