Both inert energy and awareness are not God

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Both inert energy and awareness are not God

God is understood as the basis (adhara) of the universe (Brahma puchcham pratishtha… Veda) and this does not mean that the nature of the basis is understood. Assume that we understand that an object, which alone is visible, is standing on some support but whether the support is a table, or a person or some other object is not visible. In such case we are inferring the existence of something as the support but the nature of the support is not understood. The cosmic energy is independent since the electromagnetic waves have independent identity. But even though it is independent, it cannot act as the designer.

The awareness has the designing talent but does not exist independently. If the radiations of awareness or nervous energy exist independently in the space like the independent electro magnetic radiations, scientist could have tapped them and must have used them to raise the dead body, just like the cosmic energy is trapped to recharge a battery. Thus both inert energy and awareness suffer due to these defects and cannot be claimed to be the defect less God.

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Inert energy and awareness are not God

What IS God (to you), then? (other than a much-overmentioned three letter word, anyway).

As you seem to be deeply stuck in the mind, I would expect a logical, mind-based answer. Please define God. If not, what's there to worship?

You create (an idea of) God, then worship that idea. Are you not the Creator?

Omkaradatta | Thu, 02/05/2009 - 01:38
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>>>>Both inert energy and awareness are not God.

What is God?
Is not He is every thing & in every things,then from where this question comes?
What is the message of Vedanta then?
It seems that from your point of view the message of Vedanta is false.

madan_gautam | Thu, 02/05/2009 - 17:09
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God is undefinable

God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.

Such God desired to create this Universe for entertainment. The very desire itself is the Creation. In view of God this present materialized universe in only an idea or imagination or the very desire itself. Therefore, the desire to create the world is itself the desire and also the created world itself is a desire. Thus the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the imaginary world are also imaginations or desires. A part of this infinite creation is the individual soul. The soul is like a drop of the infinite ocean of imagination or desire of God. Thus, quantitatively the entire ocean of imagination of God is very huge compared to the tiny soul. Remember that both the Universe and the tiny soul are made of the same substance called as imagination or desire. Thus the force of the Universe is far greater than the force of the soul. Due to such huge quantitative difference of the same phase, the Universe, which is far stronger than the soul appears as a materialized entity for the soul. But this infinite ocean of desire, which is the infinite Universe is a tiny drop compared to the infinite force of God. Therefore, again due to the same quantitative difference of force the entire universe is just the very weak imagination from the view of God. Thus imagination and materialization exist simultaneously true from the point of God and soul.

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Universal Spirituality for World Peace

dattaswami2 | Sat, 02/07/2009 - 12:09
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I believe Madan's point was that there is nothing that is "independent" of God; nothing that is not God.

Phroggy | Sat, 02/07/2009 - 22:14