Science finally discovers that there is no self
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See the new guru profile for Thomas Metzinger.
It's amazing that scientists always first need the phase to condemn some spiritual truth in a patronizing arrogant fashion and then find out that actually they were wrong.
It happened with quantum theory replacing the Newton mechanics, it happened with thelepathy and other paranormal psychological phenomenon and it happens now with the realization that there is no "I".
Anyway, trust and belief in god cannot rely on science ("science itself says...") as the mind knows very well to soon disregard it in the conditioning level and return to the old habits. One needs much more fundamental ground of surrender to have a true trust and connection with the beyond. Still, it is nice to read such discoveries of science...
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Santthosh
Hi si si,
It is wrong to say there is no self. But science has not realized the fact that 'I' is not the self. The self is that on which the whole experience of duality is based. The self can stay with or without the 'I' or duality.
The 'I' or duality which appears and disappears which is identified as mind. The mind cannot be put under any laboratory test thus science cannot go beyond the mind. The mind has to be driven back to its source only through thinking process by inquiry,analysis and reasoning.Science cannot cross the physical shackle.
Since science believes the mind is limited to the physical entity and views and judges everything on the base of 'I' as self.
WITH RESPECT AND REGARDS
SANTTHOSH
F.S
It's a matter of semantics
It's a matter of semantics. In the term "self", psychology as well as other disciplines refer to the individual I.
It is only in Advaita and other related doctrines that the term Atman was translated into self which to my opinion is not such a good translation due to the misleading connotation.
BTW, your writing here is done in duality or in non-duality? :-)
Interesting...
"This error is part of a broader misconception we have of mixing the representations of reality we have in our mind with reality itself. We regard the mental representation of an object as if it were the object itself."
Interesting, and clearly true - it's a shame that science may never be able to test stuff like this (in particular to carry it to its full conclusion and see the implications, as advaita / spirituality has done), as the whole thing relies on a model based on false 'objectivity' (social-consensus peer review) - thus, science itself is flawed by the very mechanism Metzinger notes above.
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