Name 1-2 MUSTS for a seeker that without all his spiritual endevours are useless

doo's picture



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Name one or two MUSTS that you think are essential for a seeker, one or two MUSTS that without all his spiritual endevours are useless.

Please focus on the subject, 1-2 lines of your 1-2 selected musts without speculations, without theories.

My picks:

(1) Sincerity with himself

(2) Earnestness



kulchnaui's picture

my pick

Sincerity with himself - self deception by definition is the main barrier to truth.

Seeking genuine love, not seeking truth or knowledge - the mind is the greatest barrier to the beyond, the heart is the only gateway to the beyond.

kulchnaui | Tue, 12/08/2009 - 19:13
kalgo's picture

ditto

Sincerity with oneself and seeking genuine love.

The main traps most of us tend to fall in over and over again are usually concerned with these factors.

kalgo | Sun, 12/13/2009 - 09:38
genep's picture

TO DO WHAT?

What is YOUR Seeker trying to do ???
What is he/she seeking?

forget the seeker: NOBODY needs anything to realize that there is NOTHING to find/seek:

this "Nothing to find/seek"
defines the limits of so called Spirituality, alias Death, Self - Samadhi.

genep | Wed, 12/09/2009 - 00:43
solomon's picture

My choices

He specifically asked "without speculations, without theories". Why there should always be some wise guy with slogans. I'm starting to think that there are people who are addicted to their theories.

My choices: honesty (otherwise he will surely deceive himself) and sufficient peacefulness (so that he will be able to start meditating devoid of his restlessness and life addictions to desires).

solomon | Wed, 12/09/2009 - 07:54
johnd's picture

I would say...

(1) Genuine willingness to surrender completely.

(2) Genuine willingness to abandon the reliance on rational thinking.

johnd | Wed, 12/09/2009 - 23:05
sisi's picture

Connecting with others

Willingness to connect with and learn from other humans

Explanation: many spiritual people are introversive in nature. Instead of coping with this aspect of them, they find all sorts of justifications and convenient interpretations of spiritual theories why they do not need others in order to progress on the spiritual path (oneness, all is illusion, the guru is within, etc.). This approach also serves their ego. Sometimes, they will be willing to be assisted and instructed in any other field of life except in the most important one for them: spirituality, and they will not see the irony in that. This is a proven formula for stagnation. Opening to others, understanding that without the assistance and ready-made wisdom of more experienced ones, progressing in the spiritual path is impossible.

sisi | Thu, 12/10/2009 - 10:46
joy's picture

my 2 musts

(1) Enough intelligence.

(2) Not too much intelligence.

joy | Thu, 12/10/2009 - 17:44
silencio's picture

Self love and love for others

1. Self love or intention to work towards it (do not confuse self love with ego which is actually the opposite).

2. Love for others or intention to work towards it (do not confuse love for others with lust which is actually the opposite).

silencio | Sat, 12/12/2009 - 13:51
shishmanidov35's picture

Indifference and concern in the same time!

(1) Indifference

(2) Concern

Who said spirituality is not paradoxical.

shishmanidov35 | Sat, 12/12/2009 - 23:19
angel76's picture

not too serious and not too light

Doesn't take anything too seriously. In other words, not attached.

Doesn't take anything too lightly. In other words, not careless.

angel76 | Sun, 12/13/2009 - 22:45
avi's picture

Breathing and luck

1. Breathing
2. Luck

avi | Fri, 12/18/2009 - 10:44
anderlaus's picture

LOL :-)

I liked the breathing :-) LOL

I conclude from these that you think that it is not up to the seeker at all. I like this too.

anderlaus | Fri, 12/18/2009 - 22:19
NIDHI PARKASH's picture

SURRENDER

1. self-surrender to mother kundalini and establishing of chitta at saharara.
2. To be detached witness in thoughtless awareness.

www.sahajayoga.org
www.sahajayoga.org.in

NIDHI PARKASH | Fri, 12/18/2009 - 17:39
anderlaus's picture

The whim and ability to surrender

I think the crucial factors change in different parts of the path as the aspirant walks on it but I feel that throughout and especially in the beginning the following are most essential:

1. The whim (as Meher Baba terms it) - a pull, an unexplainable caprice to pursue spiritual matters and self development (most people on earth have no interest in that)

2. Ability to surrender completely (even for a short time).

anderlaus | Fri, 12/18/2009 - 22:17
sharonk's picture

Sincerity

Sincerity. All the rest can be cultivated or compensated. But in order to know what should be cultivated or/and compensated you must first be sincere inwards and outwards (which are not seperate as our experience teaches us).

sharonk | Sat, 12/19/2009 - 00:38
mbnarayana's picture

1)Nirmamo2)Nir ahankaraha sa

1)Nirmamo2)Nir ahankaraha sa shantim adhi gachati gita(2-71)
One should get ridof myness and I ness to attain peace

mbnarayana | Sat, 12/19/2009 - 10:21
solo's picture

I'm not sure I understand

But these are the results, not the traits one should have/acquire to achieve these results.

It's like I ask what should one do in order to enter the cinema and you will say: sit in his designated seat and watch the movie :-)

solo | Sat, 12/19/2009 - 13:14
nelo's picture

Trust and skepticism

Trust - otherwise he/she will quit upon the first hardship on the path.

Skepticism - otherwise he/she will fall in the first pitfall on the path.

nelo | Sat, 12/19/2009 - 22:16
seeker's picture

ditto - trust & skepticism

I would say: enough trust and not too much skepticism.

seeker | Sun, 12/20/2009 - 07:34
dabka's picture

Humility & balance

Humility & balance.

Humility because otherwise one cannot accept the authority of someone else and without that there is no chance for progress. Those who say that you need no one to evolve spiritually are deceiving themselves out of ego or introversion.

Balance - balance is the name of the game: not too much and not too little - in everything - the middle path is the path, all the extremes are tricks of the mind.

dabka | Sun, 12/20/2009 - 12:32
B-friend's picture

what a great thread

...you guys are awesome...

______________

I like these traits myself..

Forgetfulness
&
Heart

B-friend | Mon, 01/04/2010 - 07:12
Tania's picture

musts

Not to be a cup completely full, not to be a towel which is completely soaked.

His/her journey truly begins when he is completely empty, completely dry - willing to accept from complete humility.

Tania | Wed, 01/13/2010 - 09:55
Quantum's picture

Meditation

1) Meditation
2) Meditation

Quantum | Thu, 01/14/2010 - 01:24
kamil's picture

desire and desireless

desire and desireless.

Desire for realization (although he doesn't truly know what it is all about).

Desireless for all other things.

kamil | Thu, 01/14/2010 - 21:33
dank's picture

Discipline

Self control or at least the wish to have self control.

dank | Fri, 01/15/2010 - 14:44
PranaBeats's picture

I'll cheat

I have to cheat, not because I want to be a wise guy but because I want to be a wise guy :)

1) Fear. If you don't have fear, then what are you doing here?

2) Breath. Don't leave home without it.

3) Trust. See quote below.

Peace

"Trust allows you to navigate imagination beyond where shadows lie". Tony Samara

PranaBeats | Thu, 04/29/2010 - 13:26
Quantum's picture

edit

I need to revise my post above. In all seriousness, what I always experience to be the most inportant...for almost anything...specially mental, psychological, emotional, physical....or even what might be called "spiritual" well being is.

1) Sleep. A good nights sleep. Several nights in a row are even better.

I am most effective in dealing with daily tasks, works, home, etc, with 10 hours sleep. 9 is very good. However, I live on 6.5 to 7 hours a night. After about a week of this, all the "magic" is gone. Nothing good comes out of this "fatigued" state. Nothing I think, philosophize, spiritualize, intuitualize, psychologicalize, is worth spit.

Sleep is underated.

I don't know what comes second.

A good night's SLEEP is very important. Several nights in a row, consistently is even better.

When a meditation teaches explained the benefits of a regular practice of meditation...I thought to myself...
"Hey! Those are the very same benefits one would get with a regular good night's sleep."

Try it.

Quantum | Thu, 04/29/2010 - 16:24
omsairam's picture

mine qualities

1.desire to walk on the path of goodness
2.persevearance-to continue the journey whatever may be the views

omsairam | Sat, 10/16/2010 - 11:28
omsairam's picture

comment

1.acceptance
2.wisdom,discrimination
3.PERSEVERANCE

omsairam | Sun, 11/07/2010 - 05:16
Shogon's picture

Driving force

My two must haves for a seeker are,

1.Faith, that there is more to life than this.

2.Belief, that I will eventually find it.

Shogon | Sat, 02/19/2011 - 13:20
george's picture

Sincerity and mind

Brutal and uncompromising sincerity.

And secondly, incredible ability to use the mind and the ability to identify the cases in which he shouldn't.

george | Fri, 07/20/2012 - 18:47
diogenes's picture

1. Despair 2. Discrimination

1. Despair
2. Discrimination

diogenes | Tue, 08/14/2012 - 22:07
Quantum's picture

Two things

1. Medium Pan
2. Extra cheese

Other paradigms will involve:

1) Coffee, bold, black
2) Chocolate donut.

Quantum | Wed, 08/15/2012 - 01:22
enlight's picture

Aren't they (1) No

Aren't they

(1) No cynicism
(2) Healthy satwik nutrition

?

;-)

enlight | Wed, 08/15/2012 - 07:22
Quantum's picture

The way of seeing

We view the world according to our own temperament, according to how we are inside.

What was that last word you wrote after "(1) No "? Was that word in your consciousness?

Hmmm.....

Back to my coffee and donut.

Quantum | Wed, 08/15/2012 - 21:02