I think the Bhagavad Gita is a boring crap
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I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend the feelings of anyone but I must say my opinion: I think there is a lot of hypocrisy regarding holy scriptures in general and the Bhagavad Gita in particular.
I find the Bhagavad Gita an over-glorified boring and dry story with a mediocre quality of literature. Seriously. I feel that many of the allegories attributed to it are artificial meant to justify its glorious mythical status.
Now, if you think I'm wrong, if you think I'm talking out of ignorance and lack of understanding then fair enough, by all means convince me, but not with slogans and hollow arguments dependant on faith and tradition but in the following simple way:
Bring me 2-3 lines (not more) from the Bhagavad Gita which you think prove that it is a unique monumental masterpiece with no equivalent, 2-3 lines (not more) that will make my mouth drop open upon reading them.
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Bring me 2-3 lines (not more) from the Bhagavad Gita which you -
Namaste
First of all ,this is your personal observation and there can be any reason for that for which I do not want to discuss ,
second why one should waste any time to convince you about this sacred text.
If you find it useful then its OK otherwise leave it as may be its of not your standard/taste.
People want to read what they have in there mind.
OM
slogans instead of 2-3 lines
What you write can be applied to any work of art.
There is a more important issue beyond my taste, convincing me or whether it is useful for me - I want to uncover the hypocrisy if there is such regarding such scriptures.
It's not convincing. Resorting to hollow generic slogans such as "People want to read what they have in there mind" instead of bringing substantial 2-3 lines is exactly what I was hoping would not happen. I was really hoping to be proved erroneous.
There must be hundreds of 2-3 astonishing lines in this divine text, no?
It's not convincing. Resorting to hollow generic slogans such as
There is no need to convince any body as if some one is genuine in search he will find it at last and if somebody is just in mind game will go on playing without any satisfactory results.
Now its up to you to play in this world or to to start journey.
No need to convince any body here all are mature and know what they want.
OM
Maybe
you have to go on watching TV,
reading papers
and accumulating entertainment.
Maybe the time will come you will search for a string helping you out of the crop. Before it is an unglorious sport to discuss the nature of spiritual literature.
Bhagwad Gita would obviously
Bhagwad Gita would obviously be a crap to those who just read it like a novel. But if u try to really understand the essence of what lies beneath tose words perhaps then it would not be so.
2-3 lines to support your thesis?
Sorry but it can be said about anything and particularly any text and even about tv sitcoms and tabloid newspapewr articles.
2-3 lines example to support your claim?
2-3 lines example to support your claim?
There is no need for me to support the Universal Truth.
Its up to you to accept it or not,but can not be forced on you.
OM
I find every lines in
I find every lines in Bhagwad Gita beautiful so rather u give me 2_3 lines to support your claim that it is crap.
wait till 2018!
when by brought up child female arjuna would rise her gandiva and divyastras and wage war defeating all like the great Indira Gandhi returning to take india superpower...
699 th verse:
"where their is krishna the lord of yoga and where their is arjuna the wielder of weapons their sure is wealth properity statesmanship victory such is my conviction"
hope 18 steps of lord ayyappa teach u what u really need...
joshoda answer was excellent i too support hers....
but if ur one who wants right direction read Chapter IV 1-6 verses
lord krishna says ," this eternal yoga i taught to vivaswat , vivaswat to manu (father of mankind),
and manu to ishvaku "
and later as tradition was lost now i am teaching u again in midst of war...
laugh ... now u r arjuna (confused) and i am krishna the reliever...
Iskcon gives all the main verses in preface itself when in
10 th or 11 th chapter arjuna says as sage narada and great rishis accept u as supreme i too accept u...
with love and blessings
dhorai.
Sadistic Baiting
I'm sorry, I don't mean to offend the feelings of anyone but I must say my opinion: I think there is a lot of hypocrisy regarding holy scriptures in general and the Bhagavad Gita in particular.
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how the hell can you be sorry when you are out to piss as many people off as you can?
it is no coincidence that you pick the most potent subject – that at this group will upset the most people -- and then post it: YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY baiting people ... your purpose is to piss as many people off as you can:
IF THAT IS YOUR PLEASURE: then YOU are a SADIST.
Truth is more important than political connectedness and sacredn
What you write proves the importance of the challenge he put. Much of ignorance is hidden behind political connectedness and sacredness. Those living on this religious ignorance are doing a conscious manipulative use of these feelings to block any sincere checking of the essence.
Truth is more important than having everybody content and not pissed off.
Yes, but if you know
Yes, but if you know anything True, keep it to yourself unless you want to get crucified. The world has no interest in Truth, even when it claims that it does....Oops!
Off course, its getting
Off course, its getting bored listening bagavath gita. Who will believe Bagavath Gita is brought forward to eradicate Buddhism. This is the real truth. Because at that time the idol worship is stopped and most of the people are happy meditating Buddhism. Certain people to show their domination brought forward Bagavath Gita and Krishna Consciousness. From that time I dont know how many people experienced the truth of Bagavath Githa, but still for their recognization they are copying Bagavath Gita. How practically, it is getting useful, people should know themselves. We dont know more how many centuries we have listen Bagavath Gita.
khbbind
Do you feel we have freedom.
Do you feel we have freedom. How free you are from the society? From the birth onwards it starts, we are strucked up with their thoughts or their teachings. It takes lot of time to think what iam? where I came from? what is the purpose of living. A yogi should be rebel to grow himself. He has to get detached with foolish tradtions, rituals and to be independent.
khbbind
The Gita's line-less LINES
“ 2-3 lines (not more) that will make my mouth drop open upon reading them. “
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The Gita is the story about these very 2-3 lines
except they are NOT lines:
The Gita's story needs no lines
– not even one -- let alone two or three.
The Gita's story goes far beyond dropping jaws, it goes far beyond blowing minds ...
the Gita's Story is about the real big-bang
that not only blows the mind
but vanishes the universe with it
into what makes everything One
that without dimensions is None: Now, Self, Samadhi.
-- really, Really, REALLY
lord muruga alone came as krishna! and potter as arjuna laugh.
vide kumarastavam....
and u see he wears the peacock feather....
as prajapita brhmakumaris say "krishna is truly eka patni vratan they delebrately to defame him has joined 16100 wifes and curse of the sage astha vakra ....
read fully even if so how their came about 16100 krishnas near all gopis...
so krishna is
1)eka patni vratan radha alone is wife...
they are later worshipped as lakshmi narayana....
2)he has 16 virtues...like 16 phases of moon
3)he is mariyadai purusottaman like lord rama....
hanuman too accepted him as lord rama....
4)sampoorna nirvikari....
something similar to.... "50 first dates"
and if lord muruga is lord krishna u have the truth
as
"jesus says i believe only potter to take watch"
potter is krishna so ur gopis game is fully eradicated ...
SATYUGATHIN MUDHAL ILAVARASAR.....
with love
dhorai.
You surprise and amaze me with this 2-3 line crap.
Like you I too am a learner so please answer what I ask you in this context.
In life do you think ?
"karma is higher than bhakti"
OR
"Bhakti higher than Karma"
Just a few lines to support your answer will do.
I shall be looking forward to your answer.
With respects.
If it is a crap why couldn't you come up with something?
The simple evident fact until now is that no one, not you nor the others, could come with what he asked for. And he asked for a simple reasonable thing. Therefore I wouldn't say his point is crap, not at all. I see here all sorts of smart replies (which he probably was anticipating and therefore specifically asked to refrain from) but none of them tries to honestly cope with the challenge.
I am not proficient in the Bhagavad Gita and so I was also waiting for the challenge to be met.
I wonder
why you say:-
"I am not proficient in the Bhagavad Gita and so I was also waiting for the challenge to be met."
I can only quote H.W. Longfellow's first line:-
"He who knows and knows he knows is a wise man seek him"
You say you do not know (Asleep?);
I say I do not even know or understand(A child).
So I asked which of the two is greater "Karma" or "Bhakti"
In Gita Lord Krishna explains to Arjuna on the battle field the truth between the two; when he refuses to fight his brothers, relations etc etc.
"The simple evident fact until now is that no one, not you nor the others, could come with what he asked for. And he asked for a simple reasonable thing. Therefore I wouldn't say his point is crap, not at all."
Lol,
Of course, his point is crap if he can't reply from his heart which is greater.
To those who consider Idolatry a sin I can only say, aren't we all Idols(Reflections) of the supreme being.
Is not ever particle in the universe a reflection of HIS being.
When you can throw out the EGO ("I")from your heart you can see his reflection in every being, place or thing.
Forgive me, for I am just a tiny speck as I try to learn from you all.
each good in relative plane:
lord muruga married devasena in karma marga in all acccpetance...
where 33 crores of god and all family members came...
so karma is first...
bhakti he married all devotees in spritual marriage...
no bhakthi is next...
but it changes stands from time to time...
again valli is marriage is what?
dhorai.
with love
dhorai.
boring crap
In bangla language one WORD meaning of gita given by Sri Ramakrishna is "TAGI" (REVERSE OF GITA WORD)which means renunciation.
gita is not a mythological and ephemeral story but it being part of prasthan-trio along-with the gist of six classical schools of Indian ancient philosophies and vedic religion; however, may seem boring to study due to its difficult understanding only to those who have no taste of philosophy and deep spirituality.gita has been "life guide book" to mahatma gandhi,lokmanya tilak,vinova bhave etc. and also to the greatest scientist of the last century ALBERT EINSTEIN.
god speaks in gita----sarvdharmaan parityaktvaa maamek sharanam aagachh-----'giving up all religions; surrender to me' and god do yog-kshem of such persons but i feel perhaps you haven't understood it.
MAY, YOUR EYES OF UNDERSTANDING MAY BE OPENED MORE AND MORE---------
well?
I'm surprised to see that not a single one managed to come up with something to contradict the radical statement in the post.
I was hoping that someone will say something that will provoke me to read the gita again.
So I assume that silently all agree that all the praises about that text are a hypocrisy?!
well?
Having been your surprise genuine but it is more surprise to me. It means the scarcity of persons on guru feet site who have actual study of philosophy as Gita etc.
Including you
Including you who haven't come with even one single example from the Bhagavad Gita.
This is the beauty of places like gurufeet that they disclose the truth behind legends, concepts and hypocrisy. Sometimes the truth is hard to accept and as a result one who is not honest with himself starts to blame others.
If not a single person managed to come with at least a single example from the Bhagavad Gita after almost 3 months it means that this script too is facade cultivated by religion and priests and nothing more.
> reg. including you
Hello brother,
Jibanda,
Thanks for reading my comments and respect your comments on myself. I inform you that I gave the meaning of gita as per Sri Ramakrishna and commented on dated 09-01-2009 and I submitted a poll of ten points on dated 09-03-2009 with the subject----'WHAT IN BHAGVAD GITA'.
But I feel there is a need to write continue series on Gita under blogs and forums.
Kindly answer
In a family fight,or as you struggle with odd situations in life; how would you face or choose between right and wrong.
Would you be biased to a few you love or be constant unwavering in you decisions towards all. Would you pray to God to guide and solve your problem of decide it just by your hard work and karma.
If you think you know the answer then I am sure no one can provoke you to read the Gita.
Well if you are not God then do read it to know life's truth about our duty to mankind.
The Gita as motivational conversation
I wanted to take off on a tangent and create a new thread...
http://www.gurusfeet.com/blog/bhagavad-gita-motivational-conversation-de...
I am, yet I am not...
is Bhagvad Gita a boring crap?
Hi dank,r u still there!
I am late on this site and have found Nancy and solo agreeing with your views about Bhagvad Gita on the ground that none could give a proper answer to your query.Before I try to satisfy you on the issue,may I ask you few questions??it will help me to make the point clear.
I believe you will answer truly.
1)you have found most of the holy scriptures including the Gita a crap and hypocritical.Which are the scriptures you found intresting?
2)you want to uncover the hypocricy of Gita without giving a word in support of your claim.In the same post you are hoping to be proved erroneous.why this contradiction?
3)Nancy has received your post as a challenge.Have you really thrown a challenge to the believers or you are in search of the truth behind?
4)you want to be convinced about uniqueness or greatness of the Gita only in 2-3 lines.You seem to be in a hurry.Are you so impatient in every matter of your life?
5)what are your hobbies?
6)Which one is the field of your highest intrest?
I AM WAITING FOR YOU.
good questions
Hello Shailendra,
You have good questions asked from Dank and his answers are still awaited.
Dank is requested to do efforts for answering.
Answers
I haven't noticed the questions, sorry. And now Nidhi's wishes are my commands :-)
(1)
First, let me correct one mistake in the question: It's not the scriptures themselves that I find hypocritical but the automatic reaction, high regard and especially sacredness that some people give these scriptures without inspecting them, not based on the essence of the scripture but simply due to conditioning by society, culture and tradition.
Certainly, there are scriptures which I do not find as a crap and this is based on the content of the scripture itself and not the aura around it. It is after analysis and guidance by people who are acquainted with the scripture. Regarding the Bhagavad Gita I only encountered slogans about how great it is and made this somehow provocative statement to welcome factual arguments to the contra - but none up to now. Examples of ancient scriptures that I value highly are the Yoga Sutra, Buddhism's Satipatana Sutra and the Heart Sutra, certain books affiliated with the Kabala (Jewish mysticism) and more.
(2)
I don't need to make any claim about the Gita to support anything. I simply put a challenge which is supposed to be trivial given the great fame and prestige of the scripture and none gave even not a single example, including in the many messages I received in private messages. Maybe this is a wakeup call for others, maybe there is some unique wisdom in the Gita but people are merely ignorant of it and maybe there will be finally someone truly acquainted with the Gita that will come up with such an enlightening example. It is supposed to be so simple for such a person if the Gita is not a crap.
(3)
I think the challenge is straightforward and well defined in the original post. Example, only one.
(4)
No hurry, no impatience, on the contrary. I will be satisfied with one tiny small microscopic example, I'm not asking for a thesis, a detailed research, a learned doctorate. I spare the time and effort of others, I'm very modest - only 2-3 lines. But this also happened to turn to be mission impossible. Just an example, what's the big deal when it is concerned such an acclaimed piece of text? Is it possible that all the great fans of this holy text do not have one small tiny example? two lines?
(5) + (6)
I don't find it relevant to the matter discussed. I will be happy to discuss this privately.
Thanks for the clarifying questions. I haven't lost hope yet :-)
> Answers
Already in 'one word' the meaning of Bhagavad Gita was given and also one line regarding your question was submitted by me somewhere in comment.
Myself impressed with the compliance submitted by you, Dank; I may desire to understand your question only through your outlook in view of this point I want to display as per your yearning 3-4 sentences(lines)/stanzas from Chapter number-2 of Bhagavad Gita but first I may seek your patience to go through its preface for clarity:-
PREFACE-- When one approaches the Supreme Being with devotion and worship Him, the mind will become purified. then one will realize his spiritual nature and eventually realize his self and his essential unity with 'DIVINITY'. That Supreme Self (DIVINITY) can be contacted through one's own inner self. Whether one tries to realize the self as distinct from body, the senses,, mind; or whether one gradually becomes aware of the true nature of the Self, it is self that contacts Self. Each and every kind of perception has its own instrument. For the perception of physical forms there are the eyes; for the perception of sounds there are ears; for the perception of mental ideas, there is the mind. Similarly, for the experience of pure self(spirit) there is spiritual Self. As one becomes aware of spiritual Self within, God comes closer and closer as the Soul of one's soul, and ultimately one realizes his essential oneness with Him. We read in Bhagavad Gita:
"This Self is never born, nor does it die. It is not that having been it again ceases to be. Even as a man casts out worn out clothes, and puts on others which are new, so the embodied self casts out worn-out bodies, and enters into others which are new."
"This Self weapons cut not, fire burns not, water wets not, wind dries not. This Self cannot be cut, nor burnt, nor wetted, nor dried; changeless, all-pervading, unmoving, unmoved, the Self is eternal."
(Bhagavad Gita II:20,22-24)
Geeta - A point of view
Dear Dank
Welcome! At the very outset, I beg to put forward a fact that whenever there is a challenge, the opponents become adamant on their respective point of views considering themselves to be right creating a ‘you lose I win’ mentality. For myself, I am always open to discussions but not to debate, as they say ‘Debate is the death of all conversation’. So, I don’t need accepting challenges in such matters.
Incidentally, Lord Krishna strictly forbids from imparting such knowledge to non-believers.
“This confidential knowledge may never be explained to those, who are not austere or devoted or engaged in devotional services, nor to one who is envious to me.”
Geeta 18: 67
Actually among the initial responses, Madan Gautam had meant this in his post.
But I don’t dare put you in that category rather I am more than impressed by knowing that you have great regard for Yogsutra and Budhhism. You have also explained criterion for a scripture to be considered great.
So by the standard you have fixed for the same, I will request you to have a comparative study of Yogsutra with Bhagwat Geeta. Without undermining the greatness of yogsutra, I would like to draw your attention to following facts:
Yogsutra is a guide to those who are aspirant of self realization. Their ultimate goal being “Kaivalyam”- the Moksh. It describes the nature of liberation and reality of transcendental self.
There are four chapters in yogsutra. “Sadhnapad”, the second chapter of the text is “Kriyayog”- “Astangyog” also called “Karmyog” is just a revelation of chapter-3 of the Bhagwat Geeta. This Astangyog has many similarities with Buddhists “noble eight fold path.” This may be one of the reason you have equal respect for the both. But you must know both of them are indebted to Bhagvad gita for the vision they received from that scripture.The “Raj-yoga” in yogsutra are practical proceedings of the 11 to 32nd verses of chapter 6 of Gita.
Further more Bhagwat Geeta is not limited to that only. The scripture is not only for those who in search of self realization spends hours days and years in contemplation and meditation but also for those ordinary people who feel lost and dejected in dualities of this diverse world and who are looking for a way to real fulfillment, containment and happiness in their day to day lives.
Bhagwat Geeta shows the way leading to the cessation of suffering and the achievement of self awakening. It is used to develop insight into the true nature of phenomenon (or reality) and to eradicate greed, hatred and delusion.
As far as authentication is concerned; apart from the non necessity of a proof for a sun to be bright (because Geeta is known to be a song sung by the God), you will be surprised to know that there is no scripture in Hindu philosophy other than Bhagwat Geeta which has been so widely and extensively examined, analysed, guided and admired by right from Shankracharya to Binoba Bhave including Ramanujacharya, Madhvacharya, Ballavacharya, Sant Jnayneshwar, Lahiri Maharaj, Aurbindo, Vivekanad, Tilak, Radhakrishnan, Prabhupaad, Gandhi, Annie Besent and so on and so forth.
Mr. J. Robert Oppenheimer, an American physicist and Director of the Manhattan Programme learned Sanskrit only to read Geeta. The scripture had such an effect on his philosophy of life that when in 1945 first nuclear test was witnessed, He quoted 11:32 verse of Geeta, “Now I am become death, the destroyer of world.”
The essence of Geeta according to Ramakrishna is “O man! Renounce everything and practice spiritual discipline for the realization of God” . His guru Paramhans Totapuri ji Maharaj alias Nangta Baba had given him this knowledge, Ramakrishna admits.
His disciple Swami Vivekanand in his lecture delivered in San Francisco in 1900 declared “ Geeta is the best authority on Vedanta”.
Dank, with all respect to your modesty i request you to consider a point. The teacher like Lord Krishna, believed to be God himself had to pronounce more than 600 shlokas to Arjuna – the devoted disciple- to make him understand the TRUTH- THE WHOLE OF TRUTH.My friend, is not your expectation of receiving the scriptures in few lines goes beyond the capacities of a common man?
However, respecting your inclination towards precision, I would recommend you to study Chakravarti Rajgopalacharya’s “BhagwadGeeta”- a booklet of less than 100 pages. You will certainly appreciate the content and essence of Geeta if you study a small book “Geeta-Pravachan” by Binoba. If you are an admirer of logisticity in a text, you must read “Geeta Rahasya” by Lokmanya B G Tilak. For an intelligent mind, which craves for deep philosophy of life and understanding of mystery of universe, Please try “ Geeta Darshan” by Maharishi Aurbindo.
In the end, if you insist, I will tell you that shloka 2:47 of Geeta has been widely accepted as essence of Geeta.
“You have a right to perform your prescribed duty but you are not entitled to fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of the activities and never be attached to not doing your duty”.
As you know “yogah chittvritti nirodhah”-the preamble of Yogsutra, for the full explanation and understanding of which, one will have to ponder into 196 sutras in all the 4 chapters of the text; likewise to understand the full meaning of the above verse you will have to dive deep into the ocean of Bhagwat Geeta.
Thank you Dang! for the patience. I am here to welcome you for any further discussion in this regard saving all sorts of debate.
Hi! Solo, whenever you feel inclined to study Geeta again, Please let me know!
Geeta: A point of View
Shailendra,
Profoundly myself glad after going through your comments 'Geeta-A point of View'. I appreciate your views with best complements.
Thank you.
thanks
thanks for the compliments.
2-3, whoa, 23!
dank, dude (as in inexperienced cowboy), take a chill pill.
if you grok the FULL import of this one your mouth will gape:
4.18
The one who sees actionlessness in action and action in actionlessness is wise and has done everything that is to be done.
it may seem that the Gita is boring, poorly written and terse but the best commentaries unfold the underlying truth and Knowledge will dawn in yer bean, provided you do the preliminary work to Get It... got it?
word!
to all aspirants come and learn from the master!
i am true arjuna in one of my past lifes tough the power of lord krishna abide in me too is strange....
hope my project work in annamalai university be available for u all if gurusfeet helps me...
the project is rewarding for growth in sphere of bhagavad gita....
traditions:
1)as nama deva i had a tradition of reading bhagavad gita every verse and bowing to god "vittal or panduranga"
2)and as a true Arjuna and Lord krishna by virtue of kumaran frequency i can say "no one knows bhagavad fita as i know and no one can tap its powers as i can do"
3)So i would wish reading bhagavad gita with mangala arati as in "ISKCON" AT 4:00 A.M DAILY and chanting MAHA MANTRA
"HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA
KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE
HARE RAMA HARE RAMA
RAMA RAMA HARE HARE"
16 *108 times with rosary probably with initiation
its another factor that great A.C.BHAKTHI VEDANTA SRILA PRABHU PADA IS ENJOYING MOKHA IN MY UNIVERSAL BODY...
4)ITS BELEIVED IN VAISHNAVA SAMPRADAYA THAT LORD SIVA AS HE DRANK "ALAHALVISAM" DULY TAUGHT OF LORD RAMA AND LORD KRISHNA AND HENCE THE "NEELA" POISON IS GIVEN AS COLOUR OF SKY OCEAN, AND LORD RAMA AND LORD KRISHNA RESPECTIVELY...
EVEN ONE OF MY MAIN VEIN IS BLUE IN COLOUR AND HAS MORE POWER THAN OTHER VEINS...
GOOD LUCK...
SEE ARJUNAN'S ARTICLE...
699 SLOKAS OF ISKCON GAVE MORE DEVOTEES THEN 700 SLOKAS OF RAMAKRISHNA MISSION....
DHORAI.
with love
dhorai.
Is the king naked?
See http://www.gurusfeet.com/blog/bhagavad-gita though I don't think it will answer your question.
You raised a good and brave question. There is a tradition-cultivated legend around many texts that not always deserve their legend. It needs people like you from time to time to say "The king is naked" like in the tale "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen. People respond in anger and astonishment but after some time adapt and start thinking outside their old conditioning.
I don't say in that that I think the Bhagavad Gita is a crap. I don't know, I also waited for somebody to refute this here to no avail.
Well, it is probably a crap and people are hypocrite
I posted this challenge over 5 months ago, 5 months.
I was optimistic, I was sure that some will come up with refuting examples. I couldn't believe so many people, especially in India, can worship and praise a text blindly without ever inquiring whether it is superior over other texts.
Well, I was too optimistic. I read every single response here. Not a single adequate example. Well, it is probably a crap and people are hypocrite. This is saddening.
not so saddening.
the gita has powered a lot of peoples' enlightenment, danky-dude, so deal with it. it's not crap and i haven't met
a gita reading hypocrite.
here's your task: prove to us that we're hypocrites and that it is crap. go on, i dare you, trot out your proof, mister, but i'll bet you've got none.
you're a troll, dank.
It appears that he has a point
I think this is exactly what he talks about: everybody is wise in doing general statements and no one is able to come up with one single example.
He has a point and the proof is the very results of this post.
Silliness
I could say the same thing about Shakespeare. In fact, I want you to prove to me that I am even capable of making your mouth drop by giving me 2 or 3 lines of Shakespeare that would make MY mouth drop.
If you are an adept in literary analysis, surely you can prove to me Shakespeare's greatness..or was he truly just a hack too?
If you want to get anything out of the Bhagavad Gita, read it as Hindus do. Read it with what Krishna and Arjuna stand for. I couldn't imagine reading the bible without the affections towards Christ, God, and Truth. What a dead book it would be then. As it is, when I read it there is a longing in the heart that brings it alive.
What an insincere, silly, childish, and offensive game you play. Can you not see this? Surely you can.
"Just as a fire is covered by smoke and a mirror is obscured by dust, just as the embryo rests deep within the womb, wisdom is hidden by selfish desire."
"Sever the ignorant doubt in your heart with the sword of self-knowledge. Observe your discipline. Arise"
"Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed"
Chapter 12, Verse 8
Still your mind in me,
Still your self in me,
Without a doubt,
you shall be united with me,
Lord of Love dwelling in my heart.