A valid proof that life cannot have any meaning

shishmanidov35's picture



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The very fact that people die around us in a completely arbitrary way...

The very fact that some people are born and immediately die...

The very fact that so many newborn babies are subject to terrible suffering...

The very fact that tens of thousands, hundreds thousands, millions have been wiped out together just like that...

shows, with no reasonable doubt, that the person, the body, life cannot have any possible meaning whatsoever. Meaningless.

As person, body, life are form objects, it is absolutely valid to examine them with form logic. Actually, form logic is the only valid instrument to examine them because they clearly do not exist beyond form.

It cannot be a matter of cruelty or generosity in the form realm because there is no consistent system found in the form realm based on the form logic to support such categorization.

But...

This does not prove anything beyond.

It does not imply in any way that there is a soul beyond the person in form, a soul that has a meaning. This is only a speculation.

There may be a soul beyond the person and there may be only a meaningless person with a sense of individuality and nothing more.



kalgo's picture

Purpose

And what about purpose?

kalgo | Sat, 10/17/2009 - 08:47
uni55's picture

very depressiv glas half

very depressiv
glas half full or half empty
maby you see only one site of the drama

uni55 | Sat, 10/17/2009 - 20:51
avi's picture

Depressing is OK

Depressive, half glass and so on are your opinions about his analysis, not part of it. Truth may look depressive but this look should not cause us to hide truth, of course.

I don't see any flaw in his analysis and this is what important.

I personally don't see it depressing. It talks about our individual manifestation which appears to be a phantom. There can still be (or not) a soul beyond.

In any way, in order to grow from this truth, one should be aware of the depressing feeling, accept it and observe it and then it is not a factor anymore. So there is a depression there...

Love.

avi | Sun, 10/18/2009 - 07:30
ciaran_mcn's picture

You could look at it like

You could look at it like that, or, to use some of your words:

The very fact that people LIVE around us in a completely arbitrary way...

The very fact that people are born at all...

The very fact that so many newborn babies GROW UP AND LIVE AMAZINGLY FULFILLING LIVES...

The very fact that tens of thousands, hundreds thousands, millions EXIST NOW AND HAVE EXISTED at all...

Surely we can see something to be positive about in this?

Peace /\

ciaran_mcn | Sun, 10/18/2009 - 00:16
avi's picture

He didn't look at it positively or negatively

He didn't look at it positively or negatively, he just stated facts.

The positivity / negativity is our interpretation and focusing on it prevents us from dealing with the important thing: his findings.

Positive and negative have nothing to do with the truth, they are just our reaction and opinion. We have desire for positive and aversion of negative which may block us from seeing the truth as for example in this case.

avi | Sun, 10/18/2009 - 07:35