A trick to break identification with the thinker

divine intervention's picture



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First bring into awareness the sense of "I", bring it by looking for the thinker, the presupposed intimate subject that does the thinking, the "you" that thinks.

Focus on this thinker, on this sense of "I" you have within and of yourself. Focus and try to hold your breath. You will notice that when you stop your breath, the movement of thought also stops. A thought is momentary and instantaneous, thus you have to be tremendously alert (and lucky) to happen to spot such a fleeting thought. Stopping the thinking process freezes the current thought in time and thus gives you the opportunity to more leisurely home on it, in our case, on the "I" thought, your mental image of the thinker of yourself.

Then, remember consciously that when you die, what will certainly die is this observed thinker. This intimate self of yours, your dearest identification, the ultimate object you perceive as subject, as you. This will cease to exist. Completely disappear as if it has never existed.

You might currently speculate that also you the observer will die then. You can still keep this idea, it doesn't matter as it can be only a speculation (who will be the one to observe this death?) while the death of the object, the thinker, is certain.

Contemplate on this sharp moment when this thinker will vanish. This thin border in time that beyond no thinker ever existed as there is no trace of it.

As a result, you may experience sadness and grief as if someone very dear has just died. Don't worry, this is obviously a good sign as it proves that you truly witnessed the separation of identity from the thinker. Observe and accept these feelings and move on to spot again the thinker. Or other thinker that thinks within you.



shond's picture

saying goodbye to a dear mate

Great technique since it reasons beyond any exception that the thinker must be temporal and since it is based on direct experience of observing the thinker.

Feels like saying goodbye to a dear mate.

shond | Tue, 04/14/2009 - 22:55
sisi's picture

Works like a charm

Works like a charm.

The addition of the realization of the fact of the dying of the thinker on top of the self enquiry (observing the I thought or thinker) is very strong and the catch of this gateway.

But you need to be in the right mood, I didn't manage to genuinely connect to the dying issue every time I tried and then boom and indeed the sorrow is a good sign that you are in it followed by a strong sense of disidentification.

sisi | Thu, 04/16/2009 - 08:40
nancy pro's picture

radical shift in consciousness

Yes, and it is important to focus on the sharpness of that instantaneous moment of disappearance of that "I" - as the mind cannot grasp endlessness and nothingness - this point (which is endless into within and nothing in time dimension) encapsulating what we think is our essence, all of us, makes a radical shift in consciousness.

nancy pro | Fri, 04/17/2009 - 09:01
doo's picture

Great expansion of Self Enquiry

This is a great expansion of Self Enquiry. It works. Very professionaly explained. Thanks divine.

doo | Tue, 12/22/2009 - 23:08
gopinadh's picture

thinker and observer

I could be wrong ,dont take it too seriously anyway:

why should the thinker die and observer stay?
clap of a hand , and he too will one day go away.

If i am the observer then ask me when did the thinker come, date time and place.

was it when i was two or three ,and, if I cant say come and kick me in my face.

if there is any thing such as "permenance", imagine what a hell would it be. Something bad happens,Godforbid, and that would be permanent.Permenance would kill movement. ANd there can be no life without movement.isnt it ,movement from happyness to worry. from pain to joy.

imagine having a depth / soul/self/ /ultimate state of consciousness WHICH IS REACHABLE OR KNOWABLE. now imagine a pain going there, imagine a tear going there now do you think we can take it? That is why all that we know or our consciousness itslef cannt have any depth to it.Period. It has to be impermenanet and has to happen in a thin space.

So that we can live damn it so that we can live.If we really had a depth which can be REACHED OR KNOWN we cannot live.SO who am I? I am what everything is. impermanent and happenning in a thin place.My depth cannot be reached. Not even by detah or life.And thank GOD for it.

gopinadh | Fri, 02/05/2010 - 11:39
angel76's picture

What you claim against is

What you claim against is not said at all in the post. Actually the post addresses these issues very carefully.

The post says that what will die is that thinker that you observe. This same thinker is dead when you are in deep sleep, right? you must be alive and conscious in order for the thinker to exist.

The post DOESN'T say that the observer die when you die. It says that this can only be a SPECULATION. It may be true and maybe untrue but it is unimportant for the purpose of breaking the identification with the thinker which is the subject of that post.

Here are the relevant quotes from the original post:

"Then, remember consciously that when you die, what will certainly die is this OBSERVED THINKER. This intimate self of yours, your dearest identification, the ultimate object you perceive as subject, as you. This will cease to exist. Completely disappear as if it has never existed.

You might currently speculate that also you the observer will die then. You can still keep this idea, it doesn't matter as it can be only a SPECULATION (who will be the one to observe this death?) while the death of the object, the thinker, is certain."

angel76 | Mon, 01/16/2012 - 16:49