Self Inquiry - tips

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The following contains 4 valuable recommendations to share with those who embark on the remarkable path of Sri Ramana Maharshi's Self Inquiry (also written "Self Enquiry", in Sanskrit: "Atma Vichara"). Those who are not familiar with the Self Inquiry technique can learn about it here.

(1)
Do it softly, effortlessly, let the I-thought reveal itself, don't push, no effort, peacefully. Effort happens to only do the opposite: it obscures the "I feeling" from your observation with mental noise.

(2)
The "I-thought" is just a name trying to depict this feeling of I that has always accompanied you. It can also be called I-feeling, I-sense. Use whatever label you feel at ease with. It's simply an intimate feeling of I. As you have the mental image representing someone else when you are thinking of him/her, referencing him/her, or being with him/her, you have the same type of mental image within your mind that represents yourself. At the beginning, you might wonder "what the hell do they talk about?" but when you spot it for the first time, and you will, I promise you, wow, you will immediately recognize it as something that has always and constantly been with you intimately in your stream of consciousness, always, hidden there at the bottom of everything. It has presence, it has energy, it has a footmark, it has a "smell", once you spot it consciously, you will find it very easy to track it again, you passed the hard stage of self inquiry.

(3)
At some point, when the "I-thought" is clearly perceived as an object apart of you, the one who senses it, ask yourself softly, calmly, silently: who is the "I" who watches this "I-thought" object? Do not try to analyze or rationally answer the question, just follow the pointer in the feeling that is instantly invoked by the question to feel the new "subject", the new "I" who perceives the previous "I" as an object. Do not hurry to make this move, you will feel when it is time to make the shift. Do it with time over and over again but please, do it softly...

(4)
Each time you observe an "I thought" you break your identification with this "I", you disconnect from this "I" as being part of you. This is the magic of observing (as you cannot observe yourself - if you observe something then it is not you...). Therefore, doing over and over the process in (3) you peal from yourself, from stage to stage, more "I" shadows, from gross "I"s to more subtle "I"s. At some point, after doing the back shifts to the observing "I" over and over as explained in (3), you will find yourself spontaneously abiding in some tranquil center, a reduced observing subject, a minimized "I" in which you could cease observing and just be, just abide in the subject, in the "I Am", not caring or being annoyed by any mental object including any "I thoughts". As a matter of fact, you will notice at this point that no "I thought", no feeling of "I" as an object is presently sensed. You have reached the point of abiding in the self. Just be there. Do not force it or try to articulate how to make it permanent. Just be there. After some time, the mind will take over again, this is natural, do not be frustrated. Return to the practice of (3) over and over. And again, do it softly with no stress or expectations. With practice, you will find it much easier to abide in this state of "I Am" and for longer periods, sometimes directly without even passing through the back shifts of "I"s as described in (3).

Remember: no effort, no expectations, no hurry...



Tania's picture

excellent recommendations

Thanks for the advices!

Tania | Fri, 08/03/2007 - 22:02
kalgo's picture

Can't find this i-thought

I am trying but I can't find this sense of I. Any suggestions?

kalgo | Sat, 12/29/2007 - 18:43
erez's picture

Search for the one who is trying

Search for the one who is trying

erez | Thu, 01/17/2008 - 09:27
neo's picture

Beautiful!

So many thanks! Couldn't be said better! Great help!

neo | Thu, 03/27/2008 - 01:47
erez's picture

Added a forth tip

To make it complete, I added to the post a 4th tip that connects the self inquiry with the abiding in the self, in the "I Am" which is the ultimate stage of self inquiry.

There are so many pitfalls regrading the relation between the two and so I hope this 4th tip will clear the misconceptions.

erez | Mon, 04/21/2008 - 00:51
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SELF -INQUIRY

Santthosh
hi erez,

It is excellent way you have expressed. But after reaching a level in self -inquiry the present format prescribed in the book becomes inadequate. one cannot expect something to happen on its own without effort.

When one inquires Who am 'I'?
if one becomes aware that I am not the body, the inquiry ends there. There is no question of saying I am not the mind I am not the sense, I am not this 'I' am not that etc. Since without the body the 'I' itself does not exist. Thus there is no 'I' to practice self inquiry.

One cannot call that state as Buddhas emptiness because there is something prevails to say it is emptiness as Goudapada declares.

We all are fortunate that Maharishi Ramana has given key to open the golden gate to open the non dual reality. But still the seekers can reach up to golden gate. But he is unable to open the golden gate.

From there seeker is on his own and he has to do his own home work. You will find many clues in many of the books but one has to do lots of research and home work on it to know what the truth is all about.

I request you to go deeper in research and find the obstacles and fatter, and know why the inquiry is not yielding results even after many years of practice.

It is unfortunate the people with conservative out look will not want to accept for deeper research. But it is for the each seeker to go on his own and reach the core from where the duality erupts.

UNTIL THE 'I' REMAINS THE DUALITY PREVAILS. UNTIL DUALITY PREVAILS THERE IS NO WISDOM.AND WHATEVER YOU PRACTICE ON THE BASE OF 'I' WILL NOT YIELD RESULTS. THEREFORE THE ONE WHO INQUIRES IS 'I' AND THAT 'I' IS THE PART AND PARCEL OF THE EXPERINCE OF DUALITY. UNTIL THE WHOLE EXPERINCE OF DUALITY DISAPPEARS THE 'I' WILL NOT DISAPPEAR.
WITH RESPECT AND REGARDS
SANTTHOSH
HAVE A BLISSFUL TIME IN DUALITY. KEEP IN TOUCH

santthosh kumaar | Fri, 07/04/2008 - 11:57
erez's picture

You are talking about a different self inquiry

The self inquiry referenced in this post is Ramana Maharshi's. From reading your comment, I suspect that you are referring to the Hinduism's self inquiry which is intellectual and deals with negation of what I am not, etc.

David Godman talks about this confusion in his book about Ramana.

You write: "one cannot expect something to happen on its own without effort". An important part of the system is to not expect anything to happen - in general, this is a very powerful spiritual approach on its own. And about effort - at some point effort is only an hindrance. These two, expectation and effort only strengthen the mind and damage the self inquiry practice. When these two are abandoned, which actually means abandoning the desire for control, you find yourself flowing with the stream with trust and your self inquiry becomes more effective.

With love.

erez | Fri, 07/04/2008 - 18:31
Phroggy's picture

Not the body? So what?

The realization that you aere not the body does not end the self inquiry. Are you the thoughts, the feelings, the mind, the thinker of the thoughts, consciousness? All of these (as well as whatever other objects of identity arise) can be answered in the negative, but one must at least think to ask, and be willing to ask. The sense of 'me' is not so easilly dispensed with by noticing you are not your big toe.

Erez has supplied some excellent tips.

Phil

Phroggy | Fri, 08/01/2008 - 00:23
sangeeta's picture

Practice

Hi Santthosh,

Practice of home work is the only way. All the enlightened sages and Gurus have emphasized on the point that this is a gradual and long process. It is a matter of patience and faith. Experinceing and talking about it, are two different things. When enlightened, all may look simple. As of now its a difficult task to open the golden gate.

sangeeta | Tue, 08/05/2008 - 08:16
sangeeta's picture

Interesting

Hi Erez,

I totally agree, no effort, no expectations and most importantly no hurry. Also required is to have faith. It gets frustrating many times as time passing by.
Regards
Sangeeta

sangeeta | Tue, 08/05/2008 - 07:59
coeleste's picture

faith and timepassing

not faith, but knowledge.wisdom tells you: IT´S OK
timepassing.yes it passes.since time is an illusion,don´t care.solutions come"quicker" then.

coeleste | Fri, 03/13/2009 - 12:01
silencio's picture

Faith is essential

Knowledge is hearsay, it is defendant on some authority, on the inputs from the senses or on logic. So is wisdom. You can not be sure of anything and therefore you need to consciously decide to put your faith on some direction.

silencio | Sat, 05/09/2009 - 11:50
Phroggy's picture

~

Ultimately, there is a certainty beyond mind's uncertainty. Mostly, it is a realization of what is not so. It requires nothing more than the willingness to see, so it is helpful to cultivate that willingness.

Phroggy | Sat, 05/09/2009 - 20:22
abra's picture

nothing is certain

Exactly the opposite: there is uncertainty about mind's certainty. You can be certain of nothing unless you cheat yourself.

The only way out is not to care about certainty or uncertainty. Just accept this existential situation. Just be, and play with the ideas about reality remembering that they are only ideas and the hell with everything.

abra | Sat, 06/13/2009 - 10:30
Omkaradatta's picture

Nothing is certain...

Yes, that's *certainly* true ;-).

"The certainty of knowing nothing is an impenetrable wall of knowledge" -- Phroggy (via Email)

http://www.omkaradatta.info

Omkaradatta | Sat, 06/13/2009 - 21:01
Phroggy's picture

~

Yes, the certainty beyond mind's uncertainty, to which I referred, is the uncertainty about mind's certainty to which you refer. The mind imagines opposites, but are you certain?

In an attempt to skip over the word soup, mind must doubt, but beyond mind is a clarity. This clarity is about nothing; a clarity about what is not so. What is not so is all that mind holds to be true. The significance of the clarity that nothing is true is that it leaves no anchor for the mind.

You cannot choose to "not care", you can only see that there is nothing to care about.

Phroggy | Sun, 06/14/2009 - 05:58
Maa Lina's picture

Book download

Thank you for this post. For them interested more in self inquiry, there is a book to read and free download from the link below.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8250640/Self-Enquiry

Maa Lina | Sun, 01/25/2009 - 09:05
silencio's picture

you have it here

Why go far when you have it under your hands here?

This ebook is available at Ramana Maharshi's guru profile here together with some other good articles: see the attachements at the bottom of http://www.gurusfeet.com/guru/ramana-maharshi.

silencio | Sat, 05/09/2009 - 11:47
abra's picture

"I thoughts" and vision

Excellent article and very helpful.

I have noticed that there are certain strong "I thoughts" that are associated with our seeing which is the most dominant of the senses in the case of a human.

Watch your "I though" when you wear sunglasses and then take them off, watch your I thought when you look at a distant object and then switch your sight to a near object.

Anybody else noticed this phenomenon?

abra | Sat, 06/13/2009 - 10:35
suzi's picture

What you see from there is not what you see from here

Just before you start a Self Enquiry session, try to move your center to the Heart (see instructions in 4 errors we tend to commit when we try to move from the mind to the heart by the same author).

As the old proverb says: What you see from there is not what you see from here.

suzi | Wed, 07/01/2009 - 05:52