Enlightenment

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What do you think about Enlightenment?
What are concept and mis concept about Enlightenment as per you.
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dora's picture

Goal in the future and therefore self deception

Enlightenment is one thing and seeking enlightenment is another.

There can no problem with enlightenment. If it happens ok, if not ok.

The tragedy is in the seeking. The seeking of enlightenment is desire, is living in the future. It is worse than seeking fame, seeking money, seeking dominance, seeking worldly possessions, seeking power. Yes, it is worse. Wh yworse? because with the wordly seekings at least there is honesty. With seeking enlightenment, the petty spiritual seeker is hiding under the wings of divine pure sacred "spirituality" and there under these wings commits silently a sadomy of self deception - he does the same thing - desire and seeking but instead of recognizing it and correcting his way, he is glorifying this desire.

dora | Thu, 06/18/2009 - 22:23
mula's picture

Being happy is enough for me

I honestly don't care about enlightenment. I am happy with being happy. I'm happy with not suffering even if there is pain. It's enough for me :-)

mula | Thu, 06/18/2009 - 22:34
kulchnaui's picture

happy

For me you are enlightened. If there is enlightenment, that what it should be beyond the rings and bells.

kulchnaui | Fri, 06/19/2009 - 08:02
Sudhansu1966's picture

Happiness = Enlightment

True, Happiness and to be at peace with oneself is that every human being craves for. And this state of mind is not different from Enlightment. What is the use to get knowledge about absolute truth while you yourself is in a confused state of mind. Let each one of us be clear of what we want and feel happiness from the core of us. That is the begining of Self Realization and Enlightment

Sudhansu1966 | Mon, 08/03/2009 - 06:08
nancy pro's picture

It is different

Enlightenment is not just being in bliss or being in peace or being happy - this is actually only a tiny marginal side effect of enlightenment.

The above equation is a popular derogation and diminishing of enlightenment typical mainly among neo advaitans who do not understand the metaphisical essnce of this non-state state.

nancy pro | Mon, 08/03/2009 - 09:00
kalgo's picture

enlightenment

There is good material about this in the many comments of http://www.gurusfeet.com/forum/oof-i-want-get-enlightened

kalgo | Fri, 06/19/2009 - 07:07
Jai K Garg's picture

A few moments ago I said to myself do I know this name VIVIAN?

And then a smile crept in as I realized "The Pretty Women".

Now I definitely would not call this enlightenment.

Jai K Garg | Wed, 08/26/2009 - 03:52
kulchnaui's picture

how do you recognize a beautiful flower?

You do not reconize the beauty of a flower by what the flower says or according to the ticket attached to it with
explanations and details about it.

The same way with any other quality, especially enlightenment - It is not recognized by the "what" but by the "how" - in the way one behaves, in the way he/she speaks, in whether he/she reacts or acts, what the level of stillness in his conduct vs. noisiness, how much ego is there.

He/she can tell endless stories about cosmic experiences, present mental breakdowns or some temporal nervous malfunctions as proofs for enlightenment, wave with a satory experience - these count nothing. The very fact that someone tells these stories, the "how" proves that he has nothing to do with enlightenment, maybe his/her ego is enlightened :-)

kulchnaui | Fri, 06/19/2009 - 08:09
davids's picture

my concepts of enlightenment

A non-suicidal individual plays with the idea of a suicide.

A contract killer is getting an assignment to kill himself and puts a reminder in his Outlook agenda to collect the money after assignment is accomplished.

A college boy manipulated by the government to join the battle and sacrifice his life for the glory of the nation.

Never-ending sexual orgasm for a paralytic person.

A smile :-)

davids | Sat, 06/20/2009 - 09:44
joshoda's picture

HONESTLY SAYING I DON'T KNOW

HONESTLY SAYING I DON'T KNOW BUT I KNOW IT IS THERE...............I WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ONLY ON THE DAY WHEN I BECOME ONE OR ELSE WATEVER I ANSWER NOW IN THIS UNENLIGHTENED STATE WILL BE BOOKISH AND UNAUTHENTIC.............I AM AMAZED HOW PEOPLE ARE ANSWERING THIS QUESTION...........................

joshoda | Sun, 06/21/2009 - 17:13
Sudhansu1966's picture

We all Know that We hardly know the TRUTH

You say that You do not know but you know it is there. Both views contradict each other. You are right that the views on enlightment can never be answerd rather has to be felt. And the experiences and definations will vary depending upon the individuals's views. Either we can be a seeker of truth or understanding the truth. Both are very different. What is truth for you may not be the same for me. However while we are not prepated to realize the truth, there is nothing wrong to know the TRUTH.

Sudhansu1966 | Mon, 08/03/2009 - 06:02
Phroggy's picture

-Enlightenment is not a

-Enlightenment is not a "state of mind". Mind states come and go. A genuine realization does not go.

-"Knowledge about absolute Truth" is not Truth, nor is it ultimately true.

-Enlightenment is no more a feeling than it is a thought. It's a realization that removes ignorance, this ignorance being the cause of suffering.

-Truth is Truth. It is the same for everybody. The relative mental understandings differ, the realization is the same.

Phroggy | Mon, 08/03/2009 - 16:41
Omkaradatta's picture

Reply

"-Enlightenment is not a "state of mind". Mind states come and go. A genuine realization does not go."

Or come, for that matter. Coming and going are a matter of time.

"-Enlightenment is no more a feeling than it is a thought. It's a realization that removes ignorance, this ignorance being the cause of suffering."

One cannot really say correctly what 'enlightenment' is. The attempt to say so, to define and thus put 'oneself' within the sphere of 'enlightened' or 'ignorant', be an enlightened or ignorant entity, is not it.

http://www.omkaradatta.info

Omkaradatta | Tue, 08/04/2009 - 00:18
Sudhansu1966's picture

Enlightment - Illuminating the darkness of Life

Life can have no defination as it means different for different people. But for the seeker of Truth, Enlightment means a spark of knowledge that promises to remove the veil of darkness from the way we understand life. May be if one day we come to realise the answer to the question "WHO AM I" the mission of life starts from there but can we ever realize ? May be we can understand from the people who have realized but is it possible to realize the truth in this mechanical world where every thing around is so dramatized.

Sudhansu1966 | Mon, 08/03/2009 - 05:56
george's picture

Suicide succeeded

Enlightenment is a suicide succeeded.

X finds himself working hard and investing all his resources in a joyful orchestration of hanging himself - preparing a rope, a chair, positioning them vertically, dressing up for the occasion, stepping on the chair, putting the rope loop on his neck, trying to push out the chair with his feet. And then on the way down, falling, a microsecond before the neck is broken, only then he realizes that he was an idiot, that all the effort was targeting at his extinction. What an irony.

This stupid X is called mind. The hanging is enlightenment.

They say that sometimes there is a helping hangman. He is not that mean and bad as he is usually portrayed in movies. He is nicked named Guru. Or Self.

george | Tue, 08/04/2009 - 08:01
jeremyh624's picture

i think enlightenment is

i think enlightenment is full alignment/ harmony with God.
where you are one with the truth. a fully self-realized, therefore God- realized person.

jeremyh624 | Fri, 04/02/2010 - 22:52
Elijah_NatureBoy's picture

My Enlightenment Perspective!

My experiences have revealed enlightenment is multifaceted including being observant of details, recognizing seemingly differences are not always differences, experienced word definitions over just being told them and being lead from within with a strong sense of reasoning. Those are some of the first things one finds as they converse or hear an enlightened person before finding they are filled with joy but can also be very antagonistic, while showing indifference [unconditional love], when someone deceived into thinking they are enlightened seeks to condemn them. They will have overcome the abstract magnifiers [opposites] like god & devil, pretty & ugly, good & evil but accepts although recognizing both sides of actual magnifiers like heat & cold, bitter & sweet & dark & light, pain & pleasure and much more.

One Misconceptions is usually being before an enlighten person doesn't bring you a feeling of rapture but the power of their reasoned explanations lifts and their appearance isn't usually socially accepted, has been my experience.

--Elijah "NatureBoy"--
Presenting SEEDS OF LIFE @
http://prop1.org/protest/elijah/nature.htm

Elijah_NatureBoy | Sun, 03/04/2012 - 14:27
MAI's picture

Can't stop laughing

Dear George,
Couldn't stop rolling with laughter, tears were streaming from my eyes.
What a brilliant way of putting it !!

TRUTH,LOVE,PEACE
MAI

MAI | Mon, 12/17/2012 - 07:54
Elijah_NatureBoy's picture

I Didn't Go That Far!

I had no tears but I did laugh.

--Elijah "NatureBoy"--
Presenting SEEDS OF LIFE @
http://prop1.org/protest/elijah/nature.htm

Elijah_NatureBoy | Mon, 12/17/2012 - 12:47
kulchnaui's picture

I agree. I think one of the

I agree. I think this is one of the best, precise and funny descriptions of the irony of our obsessive yearning for enlightenment.

kulchnaui | Mon, 12/17/2012 - 16:33